Speech Transcript - FOSS & Education

0:00:09	so i think about fast education this is one of my favourite quotes about education
0:00:14	i had to go to graduate was from this
0:00:18	i've just had it around for a long time which is education is what is
0:00:21	what is that when you forgot not of so after you've been through all the
0:00:24	tests
0:00:25	and you don't really remember all the little bits and pieces that's what's that's what's
0:00:30	left and we think about education
0:00:33	so
0:00:35	i was home schooled
0:00:37	i was actually well i like so people in the third grade dropout that's the
0:00:42	fun way to say i went through third grade and i was actually home schooled
0:00:47	for the first half of kindergarten when i was are we little K and i
0:00:50	remember that being a lot more fun than school and i convince my mom to
0:00:53	put me out of school and go back to homeschooling
0:00:56	and from so from fourth grade and still
0:00:59	i took the A C which is a college example and us when i was
0:01:04	eighteen i never took any more tests
0:01:08	and it was it was great that's what i actually you graduate from high school
0:01:13	though because in us there's something called come our school which is an umbrella school
0:01:18	so for home schoolers that want a standard transcript and the standard
0:01:25	a high school diploma for just purposes it use of applying to colleges and what
0:01:30	not you can in the rolling can or school and actually have an international school
0:01:35	they also have a base in germany actually
0:01:38	as well and they actually all they also have a campus cool it's in ann
0:01:42	arbour michigan which is about a four and a half hour drive from my house
0:01:46	so i've been there a few times
0:01:48	over the years
0:01:50	and i graduated you doesn't do actually graduated here really
0:01:55	i didn't actually know this until about six months before i graduated because we had
0:02:00	the we had these things called credit report forms where you filled out what classes
0:02:03	you were taking and how many hours you're done for this or that
0:02:06	and i had failed to send in mind for the second year so the middle
0:02:11	of the third year so i didn't really realise how much i have done that
0:02:15	second year and up till then and i realise when i was going to say
0:02:20	that in that i had gotten something like four credit hours the last year and
0:02:25	i only needed like six or eight or something for that year and so i
0:02:29	remember my dad came home from working as like so i guess what i graduated
0:02:34	it was fun
0:02:36	i don't have is waiting this year actually so i guess i'm gonna have to
0:02:40	do something else "'cause" at that point i was looking into applying for a
0:02:46	us foreign exchange student program or
0:02:48	and all strip something fun for my senior but
0:02:53	in any case i graduated and because i graduate a year early i didn't have
0:02:57	time to apply to the school that actually wanted to go to which was in
0:02:59	alaska at that point my plan was to be a marine biologist
0:03:03	i'd forgotten how much i hated school
0:03:06	i quickly remembered when i went to a little can stay interest grows which is
0:03:11	like their satellite school near me and i went there for one semester and remembered
0:03:16	how much i hated school and sitting in mostly people talk and writing things down
0:03:21	so i then transferred down talking college which is also in ohio and a talking
0:03:27	i may be injured have to so she's from them there
0:03:31	not really super useful at this point there in that customers mention and natural resource
0:03:35	management
0:03:36	so about as far away from computer science as you can get
0:03:41	it was a fun school and of last time at my husband there
0:03:45	and
0:03:46	i since then i spent a year in spain in two thousand five because i
0:03:50	want to learn spanish F we would approve when i realised that i should really
0:03:53	learn spanish of from gonna travel that way
0:03:56	at least three more useful language and so it's been a year there in learn
0:04:00	spanish and came home and
0:04:02	what not
0:04:03	so
0:04:04	something that's adjusting
0:04:06	or for most people to realise that i live in the middle of nowhere and
0:04:09	i see that jokingly and most people don't really believe me but if you see
0:04:13	at the end here
0:04:15	at the at the very end of that white line there's a little white spot
0:04:19	and that's actually the roof of the cab that my dad lives in we live
0:04:23	in the other sort of creamy college but there this is all a wider of
0:04:27	this is about like a mile or fight so about a half mile probably almost
0:04:33	so a larger view that the carolyn up there is that's the county see
0:04:38	the other little mark what the name of here
0:04:42	that story that's where my son went to school for a year and a half
0:04:46	i guess you'd at your public preschool this is you like that you love that
0:04:50	and then he did about a month of kindergarten maybe to any sort of complaining
0:04:56	didn't wanna go and
0:04:58	i couldn't blame "'em" i hate school i guess that i remember that
0:05:02	whenever i go back so i pull them out and now we're homeschooling so in
0:05:06	the us
0:05:08	homeschooling accounts for about three percent of the population of gets as of two thousand
0:05:13	and seven in nineteen seventy two was when it started to become legal it i
0:05:18	don't know when it really became completely legal in the us where people were worried
0:05:21	anymore "'cause" when i was home schooling originally in the eighties and the early nineties
0:05:26	it was still sort of an iffy proposition which is why my family join come
0:05:30	are originally because they were way to be sort of safe and not worry about
0:05:35	the law that if you got in trouble
0:05:38	and more would represent you
0:05:41	so why we home school is because well i it just doesn't wanna go to
0:05:46	school
0:05:47	and then be is because like in school can if you think of the world
0:05:52	and what there is to learn about it as a as a pie chart which
0:05:55	is the blue in school kids they get they get this little section right they
0:05:59	get this section of the world of exposure to different things a different ideas at
0:06:03	school but they miss out on a whole bunch more because the world is not
0:06:06	just school as we all know who have gone away and moved on from school
0:06:12	and the before what a lot of people have a problem with home schooling and
0:06:15	us is because so many people want school for religious really which isn't me but
0:06:20	they really just want to lose
0:06:21	because they want expose their kids to this to this tiny sliver of the world
0:06:26	of a little bit of education and of there
0:06:29	they're very small view of the world which i don't agree with and hopefully most
0:06:35	people don't agree with but there's lots of them and us to do
0:06:39	but i don't school because i wanna suppose make is to this which is everything
0:06:42	which is everything that there is so mostly what we deal with home schoolers
0:06:46	is me read books and we play games
0:06:50	and we acknowledge that
0:06:53	that we're always learning your learning something right now i'm running something right now were
0:06:59	always learning something
0:07:00	learning never starts and it never stops and so you die from them when you're
0:07:04	born so and schooling is what we really doing i've been saying i'm home schooling
0:07:08	that's
0:07:09	technically sure that's what i tell the government but actually what i'm doing is called
0:07:13	on schooling and
0:07:15	when i grew up i was in school or i didn't actually know that like
0:07:18	that's about high school college and realised that we were actually on schooling
0:07:22	and this is a quote from john whole it was sort of the father of
0:07:27	a lot of homeschooling he's right here a whole bunch of books in the i
0:07:32	think the late seventies well when you started writing through the eighties
0:07:35	about education and kids and how kids learn and it you know to trust children
0:07:41	is the hardest thing that we can possibly do because most of us grew up
0:07:45	not being told that we weren't we couldn't be trusted
0:07:49	that we couldn't be trusted only in order to learn you had to go to
0:07:52	school and sit down and read a book and you worksheets intake test
0:07:58	so these are just a couple of other quotes from john whole
0:08:03	and it it's true that's what
0:08:06	you know if you think about it were always learning and everything we do and
0:08:11	my biggest example might you six example for most people is legos because probably all
0:08:17	this have played with legos right at anyone in here not that with like that
0:08:20	this do that
0:08:22	you've never like this like this
0:08:25	now
0:08:31	i okay so you play with the spanish version of like this
0:08:35	okay so
0:08:38	i
0:08:40	i
0:08:42	i so means that my voice the little one facing us is key in he's
0:08:48	well will be for on wednesday and yellow that it was used would use as
0:08:53	well homeschooling now and this is mostly my collection of like those there's some that
0:08:58	they have gotten for birthdays and christmas and the last couple years
0:09:01	this is a very common picture our room when you walk in our house this
0:09:06	happens at least once a day that it that's for the legos people down and
0:09:09	usually there are all they're not always sometimes
0:09:13	sometimes they get put away because you know i need to vacuum the floor or
0:09:16	something or i just wanna do something else besides the one that goes first up
0:09:19	around i guess because as we all know stepping on the was a slightly painful
0:09:24	i actually had a cut in my for a few months ago from a lego
0:09:28	that somehow i stepped on just perfectly wrong and it was actually leading it was
0:09:32	really painful but so legos
0:09:35	when you think about it
0:09:37	when you learn when you're building with legos when you're playing with
0:09:40	what do you and your learning how to count how to add how to subtract
0:09:45	how to build things how to you are really about map all about science and
0:09:50	engineering right you're learning about all kinds of things about our how to design how
0:09:55	to make things look good how to you know versus building something with the jumble
0:10:00	of colours verses all the same colour my son still in the stage where he's
0:10:03	just i need this piece i don't care what colour this i'm sure that will
0:10:07	change eventually but right now he doesn't care we just want to build things
0:10:13	so
0:10:14	that that's just my example to get you thinking of the of how to think
0:10:17	about on schooling so and computers and actually this is my voice computer just to
0:10:23	the right of it is their bunk beds there's at least are sitting there charging
0:10:28	which is a also constant battle
0:10:32	but what we use is we use this all that stuff this was my high
0:10:35	school graduation present it was a great pc
0:10:39	back and it works so works fine but actually runs X F C E or
0:10:43	actually the going to be exact because it just won't quite run you know actually
0:10:48	haven't tried but i'm pretty confident five hundred megs of ram and it'll P for
0:10:52	is probably not sufficient
0:10:54	they also use a lot of lifters they play with those most in the car
0:10:59	and there's all kinds of great games that each in different things
0:11:03	and they also plan like that what i have a pain kind which was the
0:11:05	kick starter i think over christmas so it's a tablet that's of three tablet it
0:11:11	runs it had to a version of and run it but i can also stick
0:11:14	in a little S P card and it'll boot into linux
0:11:20	and i think it's relative see that on it they also play with obviously are
0:11:24	small are enjoyed smartphones the computer and my laptop occasionally when i let them play
0:11:29	with it which is unusual because there for in six and i don't know if
0:11:34	you have little kids but they're slightly on the destructive side
0:11:38	so as far as applications that we use in that they have access to every
0:11:41	day there's a lot more than this
0:11:45	mostly that they love to play games obvious is all it's do they play talk
0:11:49	smack effects typing all the time those are games of them they also play a
0:11:54	or i don't know if you've heard of this it's another application it's these are
0:11:58	all they're fairly basic they start out adding and subtracting you believe they going to
0:12:03	multiplication and division my guys haven't gotten anywhere near there yet but i'm sure they
0:12:07	will eventually there's also you can pre which is a gonna project and you can
0:12:12	pre has a ton of stuff and it's a suite of programs so there's all
0:12:16	sorts of games there's all sorts of writing programs there's you know there's reading when
0:12:22	you A B C's how to count it all sorts of things some of our
0:12:25	summer go students last year real programs that added in stuff about space and physics
0:12:30	and stuff which was really cool and really fun to have
0:12:34	they also play a few games on our tablets and things this is swords and
0:12:38	soldiers does anyone your plate swords and soldiers
0:12:41	it was in a whole bundle which is how i have it "'cause" i've been
0:12:44	buying most of the humble one of things are bottles for a long time this
0:12:48	is one of the my voice favourite games
0:12:51	this is a great example of how kids are just sponges and learn things
0:12:55	we were at a museum dedicated lately this a few times and we write a
0:12:59	museum in ohio and it had big a displays about different cultures and one of
0:13:05	them was the chinese and it was like okay see and the chinese invented gunpowder
0:13:10	and my son and just went away that i want
0:13:13	right you learn where did where did we possibly go over trying to think anyway
0:13:17	sergeant sort of someone in and insertions orders there's the vikings what you see right
0:13:23	now and there's also chinese and aspects that you can play as and the chinese
0:13:28	have gotten harder they have guns because they invented gunpowder and that's how my son
0:13:32	learned chinese the did gunpowder which just kind of made me laugh and it still
0:13:36	makes you have to think about it that just random things that they pick up
0:13:40	everywhere constantly
0:13:44	as far as other ways that we have for kids to learn about computers is
0:13:49	there's this thing called scratch and their motto is imagine program share it's done by
0:13:54	mit my voice haven't messed with that it's mostly online
0:13:59	and they haven't quite got to that point they're not quite reading but i i'm
0:14:05	hoping to introduce this fall and when i get back and getting some more different
0:14:09	things and stop there's also alice i don't know much about alice i was trying
0:14:13	to look it up the last couple days hopefully i i'd like to introduce all
0:14:18	the but the problem that we have with kids in computers is that in school
0:14:23	or even at home most people have what they have windows or they have mac
0:14:27	and so that's what kids are being taught right now is there learning about windows
0:14:31	there learning about mac and how to run their not learning anything about free software
0:14:36	they're not wearing anything about how to run it
0:14:39	or it's ideals and what's behind it and as a result
0:14:44	we don't have much for them right and still they get to
0:14:49	to call it really there's some other things here and there but in until we
0:14:53	get to college most people most kids aren't really exposed in any way shape or
0:14:57	form a believe it's a college you're not generally exposed to for software and by
0:15:02	that time you've lost them because they've already become set in their ways and what
0:15:07	they use what they know
0:15:09	and if we wanna add more people to pass generally to get known
0:15:15	we need to figure out some way to reach out long before they get to
0:15:19	college
0:15:20	some way to reach out and grab them
0:15:23	and something to get them thinking there's also there's also sugar of course which is
0:15:29	an out should of the one a proper trial that's who was originally developed for
0:15:35	and sugars great but their problem is sugars a fairly basic
0:15:40	and it's
0:15:41	kind of hard to get you have to know how do at least install linux
0:15:44	or at least be willing to trying bring something to we use P key which
0:15:48	is not something most people know how to do for first
0:15:53	for first way in to fox i love sure i haven't got a my voice
0:15:57	computer yet at some point i'll probably give that a try
0:16:02	you know that's with the other problem with the one leftover trout program is they
0:16:05	have these all something like that the excellent have a that's coming out shortly and
0:16:09	i would love to have a couple of these for my voice but i have
0:16:12	no way to get them because they only are sold by the hundred i think
0:16:17	i do we have a i look up that the minimum order is a hundred
0:16:21	and because they're really only find them to schools
0:16:23	and they're not really trying to get to them so them the schools even in
0:16:27	the us that's what i've
0:16:28	played around the idea of trying to get a hundred home schoolers or hundred friends
0:16:32	that would want to buy one of these for their kids they're trying to put
0:16:36	together a group by but i haven't managed to figure out exactly how to do
0:16:40	that i don't know quite that many people what can kids at least that have
0:16:44	the money to spend a hundred order dollars on a toy is actually for their
0:16:48	kids i would love to do it "'cause" i would love to have one of
0:16:52	these able to have two of them actually because i would need one for each
0:16:56	just what we have we have to be pictures because
0:16:58	one is yes
0:17:01	well and i would not want to but at least to at least to one
0:17:05	for each of them edit their minimum but there needs to be something some way
0:17:11	for people to get fast easily and if even these were available for sale it
0:17:15	would be a lot easier to say you can go buy one but you can
0:17:20	this is just more about what it and saying you know that's the sugar in
0:17:25	your we can see they do great things they have you know several minute several
0:17:29	million computers now in mostly verbal countries where kids are using these and learning how
0:17:35	to develop and learning how to use computers and you learning how to read for
0:17:40	that matter you know some of these i know they've done experiments S
0:17:47	that might be
0:17:49	but
0:17:52	in that you know that it's just it's a great project since a great idea
0:17:57	but there needs to be an easier way to get a hold of it
0:18:02	when we when kids get the high school there is google coding which i really
0:18:06	wish existed you know ten fifteen years ago when i was in his local i
0:18:09	totally would've done that but google colin according to straight but it has the same
0:18:15	limiting factor a summer of code which is that it's only code and it's only
0:18:20	for high school students
0:18:21	and it's not super well advertise so lots and lots and lots of people don't
0:18:26	know what it this
0:18:27	and it needs to be more well what advertised and it need and we need
0:18:32	something very similar but that is not purely code
0:18:36	and that is so different way to get in to free software for kids and
0:18:40	for people generally for that matter different ways for them to become involved
0:18:54	possibly
0:18:56	that's an idea
0:18:59	that that's a great idea i'm i think about it right
0:19:05	so what do we need is we need some way to bring kids and something
0:19:11	that's fun that they want to play anyways this is one of my voice favourite
0:19:15	games on the computer the super talks i assume probably some of you have put
0:19:20	that's once or twice i have the sensually mario
0:19:23	so why
0:19:26	it is still one it's a platform are the basic
0:19:31	these english true is applied
0:19:35	but i want super talks my boards also projects but the question is and this
0:19:39	much follows the mass talk and this mobile as wise and or why isn't super
0:19:45	talks easy to change why is in it why don't we make it a way
0:19:50	for people for kids to make new level to make their own levels
0:19:53	that maybe you have to be the game first
0:19:56	but once you beat it now you can go in and you can usually design
0:19:59	your own levels
0:20:00	why can't you make different tim to make the physics of the game a little
0:20:04	bit different even if it's just to change it so that instead of running on
0:20:08	the bottom maybe run on the top of the street
0:20:11	maybe you flow maybe you can fly now and different design different things why in
0:20:16	free software can't we make it easy to use and easy to play and
0:20:22	and go from there
0:20:25	and that in programs that focus on freedom that focus on promoting and explaining freedom
0:20:32	as in as and it's yours as and we've given you supertopics
0:20:36	and now it's yours and now you can play with it and you can design
0:20:40	new levels and you can give a
0:20:44	is there a little there's
0:20:46	that's also
0:20:49	right
0:20:52	right so but so we should be able to change the dynamics of it why
0:20:56	can't why can't we i mean it's free right can't we can't we figure out
0:20:59	some way to do this and i'm not a good enough programmer that i can
0:21:02	see that i can do this
0:21:05	and aside from that you know in schools around the world there are some countries
0:21:10	that are trying to move which free software some highlights are brazil where there's five
0:21:15	million people in this five hundred thousand schools using free software which is amazing and
0:21:20	also and i'm so jealous
0:21:23	in spain that make eczema data is moving so open source and they've install dbn
0:21:29	on forty thousand desktops which is pretty awesome and highlight just a few days ago
0:21:34	order one point two million enjoy tablets to give out to their students which is
0:21:39	i know it's not it's not really frame but it's better than that more during
0:21:44	our sex come on
0:21:46	it's better than them ordering windows tablets i would much prefer to see people use
0:21:51	enjoyed rather than windows or oversexed because at least it something different and it is
0:21:56	it's a third option that is becoming silly available
0:22:00	and
0:22:01	aside from that there for schools there are some cost management application
0:22:06	which i honestly i and when i looked this up and follows information i can't
0:22:10	understand why schools don't use these more other than that they're somewhat limited
0:22:15	but there's all sorts of different ways that we can be promoting ourselves to schools
0:22:20	because it's they have some way to use it as their management software and realise
0:22:25	that this works then maybe they're gonna be more likely to use it for their
0:22:29	desktops
0:22:30	"'cause" right now in the us and i'm sure on the world there are millions
0:22:33	of people with X P on their systems that is going to be completely obsolete
0:22:38	in twenty fourteen
0:22:40	and at that point what happens what happens all those people what happens all those
0:22:44	tools in those libraries
0:22:46	some of which exist in my town that have these old systems that the now
0:22:50	they're gonna be forced upgrade or something else
0:22:52	and can we can we promote ourselves to them to try and get them to
0:22:57	move to say you don't have to buy new hardware
0:23:00	because so many places of right now of course or so it's got okay they
0:23:03	have no money for new computers
0:23:06	or for new licenses or anything else
0:23:11	and that's pretty much all i have there's any questions
0:23:24	yes
0:23:42	yes this day and one is the but you know i was just wondering
0:23:49	and
0:23:50	how you
0:23:52	you just
0:23:54	expansion it's two kids
0:23:56	i like travelling that's what we go on a lots of field trips more or
0:24:00	less constantly so that day after i get back i get back to do and
0:24:05	ohio something like ten thirty eleven o'clock at night and the next morning i'm getting
0:24:09	up at probably edition packing a want and around nine will be leaving and going
0:24:14	teenager readers which is a program and that's that happens every other week for the
0:24:19	summer but then throughout the school year we go one lots of field trips to
0:24:22	museums to science and it's amazing how much that's going on for kids that you
0:24:27	don't know about and so you start looking i mean in my area when i
0:24:30	i've make it was in school i didn't even lot "'cause" i didn't care right
0:24:34	but once you said you didn't wanna school i spent the next
0:24:38	two or three months "'cause" that was in
0:24:41	october ish east are to complain he didn't wanna go and i pull them out
0:24:44	after christmas so for the next two or three months i spent online looking up
0:24:49	all different things and can see i can hear i can show you my calendar
0:24:55	of stuff
0:24:58	well that's weird where's
0:25:08	open of evolution of stuff that we do which and everything that on this counter
0:25:14	we don't go to we couldn't if we wanted to
0:25:18	so all of the
0:25:23	see
0:25:24	yes all of
0:25:27	here let me take off mine
0:25:30	and kevin's
0:25:32	so all of that is all the stuff that there is to do within an
0:25:36	hour so strive of where i live which is the middle of nowhere as you
0:25:40	also earlier so we don't do all this because frankly you can a lot of
0:25:45	the conflicts
0:25:47	but this is constantly this is what this is august and i have this and
0:25:52	this is just what's plan right now as of a few weeks ago i'm constantly
0:25:56	adding new stuff to this
0:25:59	this is you know september and it just goes on a not we're joining a
0:26:04	colour as of
0:26:05	i think the first meeting three days in august twenty eight and then every
0:26:10	or less every other we will be up in akron which is like an hour
0:26:14	and a half away for a includes the core with i think there's ninety kids
0:26:18	michael
0:26:20	that so close to each by using the there's tons of stuff to do
0:26:39	i think i think in order to get kids involved at the university level we
0:26:44	need to start them when they're young little when they're young and i mean that's
0:26:48	what summer of code is a great way to push it that way but how
0:26:51	in the question of course is how do we get like the people who are
0:26:54	in the design and other things to join us and help us design better going
0:26:58	on three you know and i think that's what maybe the at we program for
0:27:02	men to some of that and maybe we need a larger outreach program for just
0:27:06	general people to bring them all in
0:27:09	that to say that you can come and work on free software in ways outside
0:27:13	of code outside of summer of go there are other ways to get involved and
0:27:16	to have
0:27:17	cut to give contributions and give back
0:27:20	and start using
0:27:32	our end users do to have your software applications change it and change its behaviour
0:27:39	and abstract thing that program in layer that it's not gonna bar years that you
0:27:44	might be interested in a yes absolutely different way to do that
0:27:49	anything else
0:27:52	okay do you have a credit know follow know education this to of a question
0:27:59	is for education because you actually time what we have a we have a list
0:28:04	of spatial reno so we can easy call minutes we cover it look at and
0:28:08	the can all location of all need for most cases use and we also use
0:28:14	the P H D T know of for the switch well we also in you
0:28:19	know this
0:28:20	a single this very important you must have at least to have a school in
0:28:24	the for the children for there is to know well all if well this is
0:28:30	a location we could use so would you did you know full it a student
0:28:37	of "'cause" you these also resource know could you can there's and there's if you're
0:28:42	acting there's a resource around more i've of the answer is no at least not
0:28:45	that i'm aware of if there was i would i would love to hear about
0:28:48	it haven't so far it very well may exist that at some university that i
0:28:52	just haven't looked into there
0:28:55	top that's available deep enough yet but i certainly haven't heard about it and i
0:28:59	know lots of people who have kids you want someone how to program and they
0:29:03	don't know how to help them start and what's out there is just it's not
0:29:07	very good i mean that they can say there's traction there's alice and there's code
0:29:12	academy and different things but none of those and all those all they might each
0:29:16	programming but they don't focus on the freedom part which is the problem and i
0:29:21	think that we need to have something and educational program for kids that focuses on
0:29:27	teaching now and of way that's fine but that also is teaching them about the
0:29:32	principles of free software and why that's important why is it important that it's free
0:29:37	not just how to do it but why that important that you're releasing your source
0:29:40	code and that you're contributing in you know when you're putting it on get how
0:29:43	and it's open and it's free
0:29:59	i
0:30:02	so i propose how do you think that we it's a community can reach large
0:30:09	numbers of young people outside of just the ones that we interact with them our
0:30:13	communities and families
0:30:15	what it is about that we thought about that's what that's kind of what i'm
0:30:19	trying to get is that i think we need a we need invent super talks
0:30:23	and invent a way to change it and release it and marketing and use what
0:30:29	we have in free software to market it and show what's the kids and make
0:30:33	it become somehow the cool new now that kids then to download because they want
0:30:38	to download and it needs to run on linux obviously but it also need to
0:30:41	run on android i'm probably on O S X so that kids there can download
0:30:45	it and look at it and play with it because let's be honest it most
0:30:49	kids are not running you know as much as we might want them to
0:31:00	i
0:31:06	anything else
0:31:09	friend again
0:31:13	i guess i would love to go to schools but i don't i don't know
0:31:18	quite how to approach them they're hard to approach at least one that i try
0:31:22	to put some for other various things and how do you how do you go
0:31:26	and tell them i wanna expose your kids to this and a lot of them
0:31:30	are just at least write a are very resistant anyone outside of themselves because they're
0:31:36	all about their funding and what they have already
0:31:47	right
0:31:48	so that there were you had it he had in their of some waiting to
0:31:52	get in already but if you don't have that in if you're me and i
0:31:55	don't really know any teachers in the schools how to way how do i find
0:31:59	that person that will give me access and let me come in and help their
0:32:02	kids learn
0:32:06	thing and mobile welcome you slowly connections with my high school elementary schools most people
0:32:15	probably assume new people who wants to really score elementary schools are teaching better
0:32:24	i have my name my brother i know lots of people around but i don't
0:32:28	know anyone who actually works for the schools in that capacity
0:32:33	i didn't go to school so i don't have a teacher's i well i have
0:32:38	well i have a huge network of friends but mostly all of them have scattered
0:32:43	they're all over there's in california one just went got sweden
0:32:48	they're just everywhere
0:33:01	more comment and a question really but in my high school learning computers was lenny
0:33:06	microsoft office and proprietary programs the right and really interested in finding with the stuff
0:33:11	that right now that's what i when i was in college i had to take
0:33:14	microsoft office my hasn't acted to take it twice because they wouldn't accept any to
0:33:19	next office two thousand and three when he went back to school for years later
0:33:22	and with that thousand seven to the different class take it again which just drove
0:33:27	me crazy
0:33:29	and him crazy
0:33:31	also more of a comment than a question the what you mentioned with changing the
0:33:36	physics of the game reminded me of the of the talk about project or maybe
0:33:41	you some of you know it's like where you can added the code like you
0:33:45	can you can directly edit the code and see how it how it influences the
0:33:49	games i would influence the trajectory of the jump for example right i think that
0:33:54	would be great like not only for kids like for everyone but especially for kids
0:33:58	you can usually see you want you slide the value for a little gravity and
0:34:02	see how the john trajectory that was that would be perfect that we did something
0:34:06	very simple that they can slide this and you're changing it from dying ten to
0:34:10	twenty and what does that change
0:34:17	so you might mention is already "'cause" the came in late but
0:34:21	and that tell you know in the ski know mentioned having again the people can
0:34:26	actually at the right word from was this like connected to the yes
0:34:31	yes that was all that's what the one other thing that matt said that i
0:34:35	think it's absolutely yes and it comes back to where i live just in the
0:34:38	middle of nowhere i don't have high speed internet so his idea of having a
0:34:42	way to update your system with their remote key is just genius i do that
0:34:48	all the time and that i take my like my laptop to the library but
0:34:51	it's true my kids laptop gets updated infrequently at best because it means running a
0:34:55	cable to it and then telling them they're not allowed to play with it for
0:34:58	like a day well the downloads because i downloaded ten or twenty kilobits a second
0:35:05	on a bad it drops to five
0:35:11	but yes
0:35:13	i record that
0:35:18	it's
0:35:20	yes
0:35:22	yes but it's been years and years and years
0:35:25	but yes
0:35:28	that sort is that sort of stuff to change things
0:35:33	yes
0:35:40	that

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