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Ethan Lee

so well just kind of going off from what she was saying earlier for the

young

for the social everything first of all there's the order for you doing here so

you can use pound whatever have to you know go through a noticeable take some

delay to do that

in more importantly it's really important because

i remember week if use your something we saw that there was an article like

a couple weeks ago it's last are actually hit my inbox multiple times

about this is going to be last quite like is gonna be the last one

because

it's like us it all i remember is that it was you know just a

couple of negativity fall there absolutely wonderful comments section a and but the thing is

i when you try to slight evidence that you know these kinds of events are

relevant

i when we invited me to do this i look at what i know what

it was like nothing all there was the old he doesn't well so stay with

that schedule but i try to you know to see what i should be doing

i know

there was like one and i don't even think of the whole thing so it's

say what everyone

our so just decide that you want things to remain relevant gotta put evidence that

it lists

or so

want to

be doing so

i need to be you if you're wondering one first pronounce it in the middle

is pronounced a so they did you buy though we can just go with you

can just go with flip it it's a lack for to be more informal and

first place

i kind of they know thing on the what i can make it is bad

and i'm real see the actual to correctly that never happens

like well to be fair people would give me tighter do this thing they just

match the keyboard and the one

and it kind of funny but

so

well what i work a lot of work that i do as a game but

i'm not really a designer at this point are not really doing are or what

you know i'm all intact i specifically ports you linux and which is i take

the code that works on windows or had maybe had some progress on any review

for no i had and then

i will ship it either you the three stores like to go on our double

store on any particular with probable are

okay good i would assume so it's still pretty big audience for them i think

and in usually on ski just you know what exactly great and

is there rosenfeld maybe i wrote something here but when trying

we want fast like so the first thing reduces as far as an is getting

record it

and i know is

when intention especially for some you're supposed to be official slides if you wanted only

slides that address

they're not really that important i said about to find out so if you want

that it's just my alias a lot of to be

so

there is this deal with a

i see this all the time various conventions for like specifically need for things where

free software and open source kind have to contend each other so i wanted to

put my foot down and now

we do i sit most of you use linux

or should i say can you minutes

well the thing is

there are perfectly good reasons for both and

we think is

i know you've all seen this comment on direct about sports

so we like sports there's that one guy that says for instance they have an

introduction this game it means it'll you work when it's just it's the same thing

and but i think it in so normally other things i will try to use

these all and you one expired you all you desktop linux on pretty sure you

already so if i not entirely accurate in these matters

just know that i know to and you know same things of the terms like

free software open source of those type thing

so this guy that some of you may not heard of and that is already

in the first few minutes of his presentation you can speaking in such a coupons

and from so i've image of them except for i was always doing these kinds

of things i've most of my in career and if you minister using music and

audio tech

mostly production rather than you know are open L for instance

and i a little bit of programming for all but the one time i did

try to course

is two thousand six and it was visual basic six

you say i didn't really do any programming after that was a great first impression

that

but it's

a few years in the college

in i don't know how it is elsewhere pretty nice days in your college

not really doing anything so if yours and mine

how to do

i'm reinstalling windows and slapped i know just installed or what's a good happens

and it start

and then about six months later i decided to go and actually you know instead

of just waiting hope you get a triple a job outside to attempt to make

games with a couple male friends in the model me i didn't really go anywhere

"'cause" none of us really had experience entire engines and we didn't have money for

like something like unity pro thing like that the only thing that we came out

of that are the first like actual open source project they did it was like

project you it was basically to except it was a on other platforms

so and then there's another product that we did not of them really went through

or

they were bad enough to write an open source that wants to that so that's

the first fourteen go think that you for your do or at least through problem

here to do a important for about not even a year and a half a

so not that much time on the other hand in that your to have

poured all yees select mass some of them i think it works not for this

their data mac version sensitive something go for linux but all means and then

the three in the bottom of our same problem regarding that's actually are not yet

but i'm i can say that i'm working on them and there's of course a

lot more than i can talk about is that you things like that the recent

one that's that were speakers all after it was a point against and there are

like five dollars thing can get "'em" from next time you know how great

no one is you probably noticed a problem because you gotta know how one you

may you may not gotten it for that game but you probably do most of

easy don't know

that's else team in hubble backwards seem to work

so i would i problems to earlier but most of the reason that i can

do you as much as i did as i sure you know last like this

"'cause" these guys whole

i don't in sparta actually get some for

in the first place that we kind of got me do use linux the first

place

so you can kind of thing can for that means different linux really accelerated people

who didn't think they're gonna get into a bundle which is pretty typical but hey

we can make it works versions

find a guy was one do you

you versions one of those cases

but i know all that or

but so you probably want you know actually free open source software in there somewhere

so i don't a lot of that actually the last

this year lows was where i did a lot of new projects

you know we can see chart because

there's a market of sports that was largely unattended which was microsoft X and a

something you might have noticed that microsoft kind of killed acton a are nowhere sort

of and

the in people or you know panicking for sweeney exports why any games needs kind

of anything you know what we do you X H do anything it but there

is particle wanna game that reimplement so you can send it on multiple platforms is

so thing

and directly implementation it's phantastic i can their accident some pretty sits down things in

getting X in a working every problem is the platform support with absolutely no

to the point where like i'll put it this way you could not reliably set

window size

twice in a row

you just like if you hit six forty by four eighty it might if it

right again you know the same resolution if you could still we export it was

all so

after some various internet arguments and that sort of thing is you find a mailing

list like i said screw it i'm just gonna without their platform code birds break

out the old so that's gonna do it with a skill to which

i actually see pretty much every single game i've worked on these just yell if

you're not where to of the best a lot or

if you're going to work in games and it's

C plus we're sure you just because it would you about nine percent of the

work you would have to do a lot of be writing to ask which

thank goodness for way one this point hope we i know that's been a topic

that's come up for school i mention we have some

very popular something somewhat here that a so

we're gonna so if you exercise in because you sure

so i still future can be and then created opengl male whining so it's also

one library has all see loads of the L dynamically centre about looking and then

one of my games capsized

and then of our somehow mayor on at video playback as microsoft gives you disability

to play windows media video on the X box things you can render it is

texture eighteen i mostly we don't have that so i decided to take you're play

which lets you just really look your files and you can do whatever you want

data not i miss your prep that not i hope that into

on again with a steel to and you could get opengl accelerated video is great

"'cause" i think that pretty video i resolutions is really nice little a and then

all that in the not being the end product was something i called wanna gayness

guilty which

basically instead of having be right now we have be windows back and now back

and we expect and what is eight back windows i think i think the windows

so and we just go back and all this stuff but nobody cares about so

i just made my name is still to which you know that is a one

product for windows mac linux and anything that's for still to you compiled this and

lose a single time input run of the symbols on a windows mac linux with

our recompiling and it will work you know be fully comply

so for instance when we do say i'm not the application support et cetera et

cetera number next will be the activities that because

that's what it should be will be or what

and we're trying to pull that and now

you will notice

i don't be one

actually can say i start as part of april and since i just five nine

shipping about seven by the in your so it kind of works so the money

in teams now kind of looking to getting them are estimated great about that and

we also have a little bit of working market start which is

thing is

when you have a can see sharp you have to distribute it but people think

you should install vinyl euro

that doesn't always work because for so long as you know it's a lot like

a lot of the hardcore linux guys have like arch extremely minimalised mean one is

a lot

and plus and it's like installing time every time to this packages of map

but most games to use all right

so at work right reaction for from

which is one of you or original might imports actually not doing well

he may just market start environment where the entirety of wanna be contained and i'll

like maybe ten see shortly wells into binary files and it's like i think thirty

makes you don't strip the binaries it's a significant improvement and it does it means

you don't have to have people install tenancy they just want to run again i

don't

so

i know that an export that and some other stuff

you can export i so

so this is my links this was actually the last like that i have because

i am next project as long the because i don't really like using slides i'd

rather just kind of

talk instead of

try having to kind of job between these two things and only you know say

one thing double the time to trying to work with the stuff so you know

those are our links

and you can fall amount were and all these things

know how to mention earlier their own might get accountable along some other stuff like

that for other

so most of what i want to talk about her dress the time is really

just general things i come across it's really the operating point where it's you know

a sweeping generalisation what you know perspective let's

because

half the reason i get my ports is because can that either don't know what

to do with it or they try and they hated

or

well sometimes it's because they can just afford but that's very rare free in the

independent scene

so a lot of

what i'm gonna be talking about now is

really

how i hell other developers get over those hurdles and things that

are a real pain even for some like i for us that we kind of

go we just have to you know do you can figure it make install and

all that stuff that other does like

channel just use a single installer

pretty please on things like that and

i have to kind of speech for all those developers use all in that slide

like fifteen or something games

because

just one and i can kind of tell stories what they say but

or i can kind i have to look at what they say i do you

it's like once winter like some wanna be like i cannot this

those you know start off for free systems where that's basically what tutors for

and

you know kind of soup and that's usually how like my contract we see someone

get mathematics and i don't all do it for you an ace and if you're

angry enough to we see

so lot of it

so for anything

because

so i don't wanna like start going on a horrible rambling mess but

some trying to make it on what i'm trying to stretch and was structure but

one of the

i have the what's think about development from

perspective of someone who uses like visual studio the whole time or discover what you

hold time and they just kind of have everything

trent it's all pink to that where the only thing they know about compiling stuff

we don't like a come the idea other compilers like the thing that knows that

you when you get a semicolon

well it's not a program you run it's a little have says bills

and so it's we have stuff like model and all that sort of does that

but for a lot of that six each are quite in are still and you

know and a proper native language that's it's you may

one

but

in we don't really have

we don't have a community that

really

simplifies that because we do you guys think is when we see someone say this

on the socks and i don't know to do the first thing we do is

neutral

it's always like the you know did you

do you have

do what are this is less or whatever they whatever someone has a problem it's

always what's try to fix the problem bit by bit instead of you know why

was this problem and what can we did not have a problem for instance

the issue that

i've we terriers hands which is hexagon where

i don't he you can problems "'cause" you didn't wanna

you i think use developing on a map so complexity most sensible option

and we can time to make still he just are just use the code what

project problem is

how cool blocks most let's go you just use at get for young

you know

i

and

or as some people will go at the usually the first thing someone says as

you ask and then that is an you can just for were something ridiculous

and

you know or lack of ability to focus on what the problem is instead of

like these underlying things like you know if your problem is that you using the

but you know sometimes that makes sense and depending on how good murders when it

comes out that they actually make sense but

you wanna be able to say

it's you what you wanna be able to say you know this is a well

i you can either say i know how to fix it and i can do

it for you and you know

and sometimes if we have a lot of time to say no or even better

because they don't wanna spend one it's a you know if you're especially for you

guys i see most of you are golfers of desktop software and things like that

so you should be able to say

what's the problem just like if you see someone again but first problem complain about

it you write it down some

and you go okay

if i'm to make a tool for this person that would make it better or

if there's some component about single inferences that supposed to do that and they couldn't

figure out that it with vigour

a how can we

make it is that it's it immediately here because with microsoft's like it's history a

"'cause" that's what everybody thank you can you can you must use like mean G

W or something ridiculous that nobody will use

so

and

not kind of in exploring a little bit where

one the products that i and i don't really think that all have been using

one's motives which is

well i think when you make game make saw for

you have to have are but are able something always of stuff when notice that

not only i know something seconds else comes the really nice interface to so you

can tell when someone is talking you just you know you

you say that executable you run and then you go three steps with and that's

pretty for the user but one of the worst think numbers so that is that

trying to if you're if you're not familiar with that trying to make "'em" are

just a package is

is insane and

i haven't spoken with right about this yet but i kind of want to it's

like imagine i like i put it in the king dollars prospering i say you

know you go to set put this is examples then you run build and hopefully

should work

and of course nobody you know bingo brisket be if you're not really with linux

it's we have trouble installing linux there are gonna be able to go to figure

out you know how to make words that package when there's all these steps that

are a lot that are completely unnecessary when you could just on so i kind

of want to be able to

for instance because where you're trying to make a package you get like again a

description and then

maybe install actually not just of racks things like that i mean you really important

and they should be things that

i wanna be like

the apple that methodology words like you know even in any one user or you

know it's

you wanna be understand "'cause" a lot of it is

"'cause"

you that you had over if you a lot of U S folders knowing when

you're struggling with something that's supposed to be fairly basic the last thing you want

is for someone to be like all i are you having problems that's but what

was adults of for you just you know

you want you want to

when making tools for that's all you're making a build environments or any sort of

thing you want to do this

to

so it's easy not because you saw it's easy because that's what it's supposed to

be a "'cause" I S that offers it's like

okay but that's not this kind of supposed to be easy to use are supposed

to know how to launch a haitian

like it's a really basic that

in

you know sometimes we require like polarise i know three

it's probably i don't know "'cause" i was using don't you for version of your

time and then for fifteen came out and that's when gnome three happened so

i don't know how long are do is that possible i'm assuming it was agony

and it's probably still is trying to recover but you know that probably was a

lot of us mean actually that's a question i should ask this is

this is serious question because i know

there probably actually ask people know when some actually very curious this like be honest

i know there are new people in here but you just have to be brave

permit how many action use gnome regularly hands

guess i was wrong

"'cause" like

i'm glad i'm

you was weird "'cause" like i remember what we were thinking about what i and

you really nine ski like

where you know use like awesome for us

to be fair i mostly use cinnamon used a special is not task

basic is known so but

i'm hoping to go back some but you know

i

but

it was we're "'cause" and the other thing was when i was

getting to talk together i asked liked where are those people like what you will

like i'm doing this thing is the gnome conference what you want me to talk

about

like this is right bonus points know okay nothing

no skin your why because

and i actually ask people like i think people i know like they're people that

one your mentions list like they give a pen you opinion i'm like

you really have no idea for a top like a topic like anything no like

who cares about their first court your first even if you caters "'cause" it know

reports that or comes up the last one in it's here

and i'm very classy the numbers high that's because it's i know conference and that

you wear but

i

it's it would be a for shane if something that was

that if something that was a meeting standard it's just some you know what the

way specially what we have things like unity are and all these new that's like

cinnamon make all these branches know everywhere and

but when the last thing that we should be doing is point especially when all

this starts happening likes T and you know someone's getting bigger and bigger and bigger

and where were fragmenting more than ever

it's insane

you know you would work so that's that sounds like class someone use it and

then made differently assays

no started or

or some inane thing like that when

you know

you can point about little things like one place

is

or fragmentation the justification like is like you like is that like

would does little whiner things just five making an entirely new that's

likes like at least cinnamon it's original like for was just extensions for known three

you know pretty cool in its kind of a shame they had to branch off

and

i think the replacement every for you can like the login screen they're replacing they

like they're getting really serious

but

it's really it's really disheartening when

a community that was doing like words not desktop industrials a and at a time

when in of awkward

but exist commercially viable to some degree see exactly try installing linux are working legs

and the first thing we do in the same timeframe this fragment one desktop into

a

it's

i

so especially

it would there's all these doctors like it's a it's a perfect storm just like

complete and help us

and

and it's one of those things were even if one thing was improve to be

better like maybe we could have seven desktop environments if we could just agree that

maybe someone will like it even if you don't like really basic training but we

could be doing here improve on just is click is developers

you know

we development event of sanctions you know source product like if

someone doesn't like this thing and you can fix it than should probably except for

them

bonus points for you

well

a lot of linux users

but don't have

data do it they just don't care about that they don't wanna that whatever

i mean

so

even if you're at all or intended we are like supposed to be like the

higher or like just the thing is you more the higher so

we really anyone it where developer user need to

we just need to figure out

how to

have the slightest civilised conversation about the sort of things people who are just right

like that right click the dressing you're trying to like this is the you we're

desperately trying everything is fighting against you

it's like it's like a

i think that's and gamers

sure hands again

well there's always that

your story we are trying to like be very are like really don't to like

see some you one of them up like you're rooting for this thing you saw

the trailer and you play or you see it and it's

sauce

and you're like and your brain is trying to go would know this is okay

though that that's not for and all those are

but that other thing is dumber than existing okay all these things we could be

that are just not

that

or suppose like make us feel better but first one i don't if you better

and then it everybody else are in your

for gained a particular there at because

blooming great linux gaming a really long time it's a it's terribly V the them

happens at full force

it's awful it's

it's actually pretty terrible for porters as well because

when you see a rat for someone's game one might seem you need to we

wanna linux version if

the community itself is not

if they make it out we were even if you gotta making it and they

make some money if that people the customers you're getting to come out come off

as like it

so maybe in like triple A where you know customers forwards put you on hold

not you will take money anyway but independent as well words like me support or

any other i did we're to okay you know

if it

if they don't wanna do it just celine "'cause"

the community itself socks where

do you look ninety nine percent what makes lex great every say is the community

if the community looks like a sauce then they probably you want what surrounds

so

it's really important that

if we're going to you know put up community ask this as like the leading

that it's kind of important we make sure the communities actually you're gonna do that

"'cause" we it it's

experiments liars

it's not cool

criminals that i'm trying to not think into that too much going to i think

you get it's like

don't be initiate on the internet don't be like and if the you don't

make don't make one problem that somebody has been to set

he either you know the solution that is one solution it's great for us to

me solutions and you could say there's a lot of maybe someone

you had find help or you computer guy goes

i can diffuse and how just you know mean i can i have this thing

you're having trouble with i can help

that's my job for instance

so enough about

okay getting all up in arms about community so like i know something trying talk

about loaded up stuff to

so

so i small you just tell the i'm sick it's gonna see so

anybody here explicitly working on real and

okay or

that's kind of slide

actually

so i mean don't have anybody doing anything with more

okay

i

well

i it's weird "'cause" i "'cause" like this is

that seems to be that your words finally starting to

it's a shame that it's it looks like we're with kind of thing that kind

of set all it we should work on this new success attacks thing it just

peacemaker socks i don't know it does

i heard that song announcement in happened like how it was pretty much

objectively wrong in a lot of ways that either i did your about it all

i know is that shipping about two thirteen ten i to what they're doing

well

well i think it's all really not so i think i think i think you

can like look at what they're doing but they're telling anybody

never telling me i think that i think if you that

i'm assuming we it's not contributed just roll for maybe like here if you guys

fronting like crazy

well like

we should as it it's going to be in a major just grow by default

like i want to the twenty thirteen ten when we shipping you are by default

i

maybe go back to one side only X performances and break that's the one thing

i've heard but

you know fact is we can so we went which most of us ready for

actually i suppose all you because

four point one okay

okay that's really good because

you know it in a race where the base is that weird the base feature

is that hey it's not yes

it pretty much means you we in so at that point the racist you can

get a first and it looks like

you're right i kinda sound like kind of the way what i am stories myself

i don't care which one works as long as it got really sorry in your

time

so

it's i think is if you

if not it was gonna be way on one time you have to make it

you have to you have to be than some it's you have to like it

and some other way if you if will wants to be standing everyone's like everyone's

madam are some i'm saying if you want to have an event or then

and they have time just like nine percent i'm saying

even if like if you if we don't works to some degree start making out

if they're libraries that have like an X pac and make a will back for

like and still too right now use it has will and that and works great

all like if you might ports you just deal to like volume fifty of these

are because replace my love that's the L one that we don't write it should

work and if there are any libraries like that's the mel are things that have

that's the thing you should take it back and forty two working with will because

"'cause" very down there are really any apps for i and when someone puts therefore

down to our faults manager is this

that force them to have use that

that if you are like well not really making immersed now when one thirteen ten

comes out when they're phone stuff and i don't know that much about the model-space

are there that you we're gonna finally you know go okay i guess i have

now

actually is it

wow

okay i

maybe if

but if you're reading i

but

top notch market which

yes get

so i mean the thing is it's reasonable to the highway and does not really

of the old things

they wanna use like their library that may only may have terrible export

if you want to just make a linux version would and just have like a

testing like again if you want to work and like a really driver still it

works maybe there's some buttons have a what if there's a problem again it's just

a still to really thing in texas and the more libraries that have that sort

is for

you could be we'll and i'm saying i'm saying like we were a lot but

we can see and he does not software for anything the software that has a

global stuff and

there's a library to a lot of to use but it doesn't use your stuff

you should work on that like it's a it's a break

"'cause" one of the like

you see like in like linux new lot like but it's amazing wailing that and

it's like a

to the rendering of like a triangle it's "'cause" it's like that's like the best

thing to do it's like they have to rate of what sell trying to mean

example when they're probably kind of examples you have

and

you if you just right if you just make a use make your

whatever software this use the popular library you can say well it's fair this morning

and we would like

people pay attention to that like when

when i was i didn't see any like we are using still on someone writing

three right that was really cool people on this remote that this like

i actually came running on this thing as opposed to a we have a cute

little triangle right

you know you someone else trainings your advantage so you know if there's get involve

or

that wants to use when it's in your like what happens that you want me

to get myself working with yours and you want to do anything probably say sure

they'd like the extra attention

and

for you know when all these competing back home like to go and right that's

the other thing that's all that's all people that brave people are leaving G T

K for keeps

Q T i don't know how it's fine which one that's but you know if

that's true

then you gotta find something that needs

like a an interface percent of the source and you'd interface make it easy katie

thing for like show how would you do okay

ins you know it's not it's not good enough to just say we have a

lady i

what we use it

you don't wanna say are for anything that people like asking he speaks publicly it's

like

you don't want to be black you want to have a definitive answer

like what games you just killed to a lot of things in the contention from

on it once you know what we just don't you will you have three back

and don't mind didn't work this and what in jesus your few i can say

keep to use

the entire this one sentence what you might games using the unreal engine use it

now runs you'd unreal sports that you just be able to all reports and we

have actual evidence

and

you know you have like

that was enough for it and say okay we will actually include your version

so

the thing is developers

we think that is going over time to come to us but i think if

you really great if i still course you are before so passionate about our a

we should be able to say we have this really cool thing and we like

to like help you

because

i don't know

i'm trying to try to come up with a good metaphor for but i mean

you can E I setting lot of i there are some students in here that

are to be looking for jobs at some point you can expect someone to just

whole you can be like hey you wanna work for us something like we probably

you get your number you have to you have to call them in

be very communicative with

the person who is a higher out like someone is trying to hire you and

you know

so my the point about this campaign is

as user it as a developer

you have to be able to accommodate developers instead of developers coming and having no

idea what to do and going we'll fix it and fixing fix it and there's

gonna have to go through every single step and george through it and they're gonna

hate it

so

i think i have a few minutes lots of right to one another horrible attention

i know this is it's you know but i really want a couple questions and

we have

i show a hand made and we any questions at all

you know

and there's one year

we with a question

anyone

you get any other

at a more

i other than graphics stuff

and the will and back and that kind of stuff what sorts of infrastructural stuff

from the known games using or is deal fact is the game still really use

anything specific you really don't have much more than at but

but that's mostly games but here's yours example where might be really important is where

tools like a lot of game editor like level editors like i know what if

as editor at this point in a lot of as she case we like when

forms were like to use just a little in this to form fits each are

and

you know there's really no way to i mean things you have to port anyway

but

like you know when it comes to your faces for editors where moderate want to

you just a that's where stuff like you know like G T K last that's

gonna come you know really so the that would be i would see games whatever

you stuff like that but if you want to work with editors like if you're

a martyr in which you have more modern tools on you probably because toolkits more

people "'cause" i mean you detail those work on windows but for some reason people

you gotta find so if you're one of those that's it works on those things

she try to find out why

"'cause" i don't know the answer

so

and you know

okay so

the a traditional problem when it comes to game development will seldom be just synchronisation

and the most real deal and the is that's all problem these days

can you actually do five and one O do i'll do from the game developer

the what do you should be able to like was pretty much all my ports

it's ask you all to for everything except on an open a lot of details

fine and i've done it there are very few case right had like write directly

also it was fantastic but i can audio these days make people think like

you have to write directly to all the stuff when

we have open al smart open solution as well i

and i think if we have some problem select the fact is they do a

pretty good job getting a lot stuff done so audio

you know as much as we well putting up that trying graphic all these back

ends like airlift of each other it's largely saul "'cause" you just told an use

open you know and then it then it doesn't matter the banana works so

is always you just say as long as we can agree to the say open

air

"'cause" there's really nothing else there is the you use that's right directly told stuff

and now we don't do that anymore

so your question

and

i mean if you if you have any questions they don't wanna say here on

okay and i'm here or somewhere around here so you can just talking we are

argue with me or saying mean things me i don't know so

thank you all showed up in the what is a blast i'll be here for

the court is just wanna talk "'cause"

you know i mean were days and this is like you know so that was

that's got it from a sob i'm going to hang out you guys are

or see and you have presentations tell help show up to so next one