Speech Transcript - How to use evidence in decision making

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partners who were very much in partnership with the government in the utterance and you

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in order to examine and word in the long haul

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a lot of what we think about how can we actually make sure that you

know how driven by data and by readers evidence than one of the region but

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work in india

a lot of and what we end of doing is capturing data helping the government

for capturing data that are not have trained or help in the government we grew

out of the actually believe that either immediately available agreement and when the technical i

actually got a minute meeting

me and you know data that able to the public

and then once we've been working with them to capture the data and are we

talking about okay happen at the view markedly right you know a very efficient implementation

improvement then in implementation you know a dropping another in the challenges that are actually

a pilot program on the ground

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on the other areas that and then we vector focus area we have and then

how we can work with partners everything robot whole department

we have and unity variance relation with very ministry the department and then found that

and you know helping them about

if the management tool either project randomised controlled trial depending on the technical type of

thing about how to train programmer rent then

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for any kind of and the whole the ml dependent on all parameters

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port there

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they're working on readers mammy not role in you actual ball people were trained men

a problem on the ground

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made by all uniquer

and i think then there could be really good regret academically going on that could

in part of a lot of in high quality you call but it one of

the research is completely inaccessible to do not only are you know that alternately they

don't in that you think other trackers are really kind of driving widening the way

so how would like to ride your the problem is that of being word rates

between you know a regular reader and then all of the policy what we're trying

to bring them together make sure that they which of them are correct

the quality time reader not practical

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can at all really are a you know thinking about the number you know

a lot in your in the you know they're reanimate control trials that are going

on how much of the

results are actually taken up by the government you know that we actually very limited

and what we see though in you know that some sort of the network anything

about why that exactly in what we want about improving that

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make sure that all the more data and readers seven but they go about in

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that everything are program is be out of however we work in and i

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and more during the second year the problem i think at the end of the

third year you know the instrument that have been you would probably

you know to be widely you publicly available

i think it when we are kind of having different things you know what work

better dependable listed what really going on

you know how the makers might think it actually very difficult to go to like

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almost like speaking another language a lot they only have that the great idea but

you know what really matters when the take the decision that are making the information

for that they go to a sort of thing though

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in perspective imaging data in the in the middle of a one in every three

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completely of really to get in the harbour compared the how you what you have

to go to get in the in the elementary

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you or other kind of the recruiter model of the country under relatively young age

and then the end of going to the government the down the road needed to

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all the way to the control level

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that we went away with those that were

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know reader or anything hundred d today

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how motivated or people in your to the remote station you data entry for finding

thing you know that and making you know by and large people pay you know

we are somewhat motivated

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whether they have temperament and you either we are finding viewpoint of lightly lower them

much more likely to say you know they have a weaker and there's down kind

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difference between the two

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on my any and the remaining kind of bring any time you have been reported

are comparable by presented with a here

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and then in general and people in your position or the more efficient than your

department are just find that the that any how often do the referent data research

i think that they don't time or you know very frequently

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and of temporal working definition the reader can evidence and the data added in there

you know brief people rate is often hundred you're in it

it doesn't necessarily reflect on the quality of the evidence by did you know very

frequently used by the that frequently people like what they are what the reader but

that the marines ever with the department and then we and what about the area

of and you and the department and the most commonly with that they have a

lack of orientation report that it or not readers

so and i see that a lot when in a real-world well mannered from working

with any actually even though they're actually lot of people sitting around with their can

be but the people or goal of course are fully occupied all the time you

know work the five hours per week and you know really would have no additional

and what click on something like exactly reader or you know anything the on what

they're doing that kind of thing going

so that definitely rodney really based on the right side

and then a interestingly enough data what to the lack of an indicator research in

the department even know you know what we need or want ya li and the

local lack of interest is the lack of technical training on how to actually you

are given the fact that way

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level we have a minimal responses that they could if you about how are frequently

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asking them you know what would actually be useful you in your job because they

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something wanna jump onto it but

if the question mark that was what are the decisions actually needed for them and

how can we actually have a more kind of a data-driven paradigm in which all

makers are operating and the thing that they try to do not problem actually all

you now making will

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affecting the quality of reliability of data and you need a manner to all the

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you know we're working with the group a very bright keep all your during training

with them afterwards and we have a little bit about benefit and all that

and then that the group of that you put the pedal you have actually

either can benefit in out the work that yourself and no one korean

and event that they had never gonna or come and then you know have something

or both or but it sounded like from what we were you know that in

on the lot of the that is there any would be fine

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that we're going to show quickly we do the online model and there are in

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there's a good amount of training data available and in bleu

thinking about how do you actually run trigger evaluate and that sort of thing and

i think there definitely inflate for that but when we're talking with you know level

control those actually

probably not the most relevant thinking number they're never going to be the part that

can be running an evaluation

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of an evaluation

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we're going to the well the ones that we develop or a semantic analysis the

politician the kind of related q how do i think that when i have all

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whether i think they need to look for hundred and whether the to a very

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of the evaluation and what i think that are red black next thing all have

not really well done evaluation

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no actually interactive and you can walk through

and you want the model driving conditions on your own

and then the decisions are recorded the core or you know future people in the

in the model

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bit like that the model builder that provide the into that you're on so

and the screen shot here the automatic approach and all the things and then we

have people

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i'm for everything that when people are by thinking about how you react you know

at a unique or two

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you one thing you can thing what about the all that thing in widely make

the fact that and how you make a decision you know given that the duration

of varying big

so that the core the training that we do that be your program

and then that you actually is a pilot project and recall running a technical support

for improved efficient making

and in my mind that is where the for the learning within each german then

you can't our goal have been happening because the idea of the pilot project that

we would work well with all uniquer

basically demonstrate to them the value of using data and record rather than in their

data decision making

and we've got more all with various partner in you know kind of a call

back to memory load

kind of elderly people for thinking about you know and are capturing data that should

be capturing again better capturing data that very poor quality

you know problem better capturing develop or quality but also and you know the word

in a very poor manner that makes it very difficult for anyone what you any

part of an l really died in the programme and under them what's going on

the kind of injuring an l

but that and one end of the document and the other and thinking about okay

you do have good quality how you are you improve your decision making

they have and reflection of the end of my

little presentation about a year kind of what we went so far and with them

actually early on how to project we've done

the kinetic if you like what a pilot project will look like for a

we started with the radio program what is a really one on people working in

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a very large public work program that implemented here in india

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the program you're that we have if you go would have a little larger public

where are you know program in the world have you know that typically huge amount

of the government budget as well

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know every public work has been under in every way have indicated one at the

program interaction with a very difficult to get added at that l

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of being structure not about it even though they were howling into a training program

it will you know

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to their mean web page we created what how the public media portal

people can go landmine actually done all labeled of information about the program it real

time

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of the public data-borrowing that work will actually be able to be information in table

the ground than i do not like open data that the done thing

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that in benefited from and we're trying to trying to get the next level another

in you know now of the government you in a more effectively happening for them

you know either in a better way

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and it where you to the most value of our program

because they think that

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each of the greater were kind of thinking how many kids actually decision content

and going you about time

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the controversy surrounding the program

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vq program working with the minister role development for on a public data portal another

sort of recording or

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about how can you you're mimo

and combine it with secondary data that already collected the inter question about where you

know but he's not many of you should be without that thing and there's really

not by the when we put into you know how to take a killing be

done the way that market here again you know the value for menu for the

government

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and factory pollution

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and then one that when we had all really well

but i get the just three partners that we have the role of each program

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we try to you bring reader together with all you people and have a wide

selection of people from you know very different backgrounds in the room talk about

you know you're the core problem in the area

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looking forward in a more native german way though and when we had a party

dialogue and likely to you environment enable development economic growth environmental action rather than a

policy

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all department a common they you know i think that

there could be a better use of data are reader in all the question that

they have and could you please come with the we have training and technical report

you know that i the project mechanism to be helpful for

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and thinking more about actually hardly anyone have a question and about

a component the be sure that everything and then on the one you thinking about

what have we learn from in particular project and thinking about how many a

incorporate be then research more effectively and the government here and in something for can

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at the end goal in mind thinking about how many people actually conducted by which

i think i'm with you know they have you actually look at data in my

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and you know how you can learn from what you're doing in each other and

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a little bit over here but we had a great amount of data that actually

in ternary all you partnership

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and the reason i'm talking about the and then because and integration scheme of things

i think it apart that really will drive something already reviewed a kind of load

in and pay your the training you know you know when you're probably you know

policymakers walkway perhaps you know

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tell you actually do that the change people caroline between you know what they can

that are acceptable

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and then thinking about how we're to work with them or respect is very important

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i've learned people talk about the making of course there about what did not have

to make that many people and you know that we could if we take you

know which are more on the problem of it

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within the government the relationship you have combined small level

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get very difficult actually you can practise and a long-term accurately because the group what

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know how print they can generate many write something

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end of you know that the side of you know the reader by the better

the grant funding by the way actually thinking apartment and you know any really

but they were thinking about the i get the that we employ habits from the

regular public work program

and so when we initially started working with a regular program the minister rolled involvement

with the correctly even and i want you to help you had kind of connection

three number in one and then

i think you can help improve the program being implement and what you're helping technical

work

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go beyond that you know we need a movie on the high politician in the

ministry in getting to that you're of administrative government

and so you know we started working more with the joint that one of the

secretary actually align the program but you can be on that you know we're working

with the technical people

and what we actually from the program is a negative

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money in very much committed the idea of using data and reader and one of

the ball the program be

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i think when a crucial in life although because you know we wanted to change

how data used in how you you're in india

we rely fairly quickly into it that the people really needed by the model buying

and problem

whether the men and women that were literally putting and you know the u

become like to wrap around the linear people and i you know and might end

room like no light but all i'm randomly men and

brad and technology i think that they are actually coding you know the back end

of the data t

where all the information being stored and you can work only then you think very

inefficiently though and the room for improvement

and we realize that actually make anything change within you know you reading about the

data that are coming in kind of how going in and we wanted anything done

in a way that actually maintain you know by the government well

we have examined the programmer the of the value of what we're trying to get

them do

a lot of that has resulted in a and the people are very technical in

that with

the ministry and work with them unfolding in one we have kind of a union

programmer that we're going to cover probably will surely leave it for example

million dollar doll you can

have an effect and

but we can men and q the value of what we were dealing and we

have been wonderful about going in the thing that the programmer and now we then

i think we show them what with all over time the data that we had

done and later require thing that we provide training for them and the balloon it

may be a small but actually quite revolutionary in the they are killed in using

open door coding which is something that you know more coherent even you know years

and years before that if there's really no way would you that

i you know not comfortable

and we've been doing training for them and thinking about thing at like version control

an open source coding the thing

which is really kind of the technical by their if you want to actually change

people to actually look at the data differently you have to get in the we

don't you

so we actually hardly make sure that you know when we do you have empirically

that the aligned differently now if you want you people get compare the recognition you

have to try to motivate and no

your training and the other thing like i think that they have no concept of

it or not

you know what kind of engaged with probably the protogalactic what they're doing that they

have a government job

though we were really hardly kind of get them again what we're going and found

that it can you know very simple thing and you in a huge amount of

increased by and by the problem which is then if you

i had i think in one time you know the viability of our project the

inability of the project and how quickly we can get things done

the whole corpus and the other the you know can you take a long time

and the whole coming and even being a you know in a minute area with

the group are really like to hold it really doesn't help you

and you're not embedded in the way that we collect really good black thinking and

what we're going and going amount of work thing where you're helping solve the problem

working until the problem at all

and so i think that probably that different than they normally people coming in from

the outline i get part of it is we're trying to show them that we're

not why we're trying to the ball you know

in the work at all

i know

i l o

the one example would be and an area and a brief on the pilot project

so that

where the really coming from one example would be like with the it'll training program

the targeted you role you that are living in poverty

and you're gonna one and rate on but the program it felt they had a

bunch of money and they but then use the data needed and it by finding

training organisations but only when talk with them about

you know what you're talented one later we have absolutely no idea what we're doing

you know we manually node got on training data you we don't know but there

really matters but you going the recording on the we're not really sure the quality

of data

we don't know and you know where recording training ability of their you know thanksgiving

training of you even really matter in any of the job market in that area

of reading

that okay

let us try to write technical support for you give a information that you have

on your car probable and we were overly all the information and for all the

information needed that i was new and there yet and then over the kind of

getting that part of the project well

then look at where the real me for the type of training so you know

they don't have anyone that can analyze and not a level data for them

so we can okay find what do i mean out or even if you're you

know why we all agree that you hear on the variations and education level throughout

the country from the entire but we try to work

you know you look at all your training on is directly for pattern recognition

if you look at the data on education and euphoria most people mode the younger

children are actually only having eight or not

so you're you know you've got the minimum education level for calculating a high you

want a population that can potentially be trained

another thing is the now we're going there are no doubt with and working the

proposed one meeting that they have really and the training the ability of the thing

i'm going any you know one hundred people and like mobile or after the clock

whatever it might be

and were going to overlay that with data from an inappropriate industry standard in where

the real neon in implement in the air it understand what the matching their in

the proposal but they thank and then where there may be and you know like

while training and at when really the reading and here that why

i really don't have any intimately i you know how than

in a like a the analytic that everything

at any and that the other you know that you thinking about how you in

that the type of thing the paper the originating the paper data in the detection

but you make so when you know how to make even like lda tool that

they can then used to look at the that on

you know the industry demand for where the proposal is not working to have kind

of all their you think right you know whether there thank you all based on

i'm the secondary data that's available

so that would be one example where were

you know that the project that we're working on that we feel like and you

know it will happen value that it will take time or not

you know that the long term thing at a while the

though the relations that even to get the data that we you know the next

meeting someone the kind of

building relationship thing here's what we hear your really are good workout

you know we then helping you and that of we have the binary that are

not the very and then you are they going back to the next pertinent

you know taken that long get an expert can only in the project about but

now that we're gonna do it

you know it definitely like a very long term or so and that kind of

a talent of you know how many in speaker of the very much time down

so what can you do in a short period of time that and also

the one introduced by michael you can an appropriate time realising that may not have

you know actually did you

but you open you can think about coming i remember exactly we try to think

about the kind of longer term mentality in mind that it doesn't work out and

the for you needing

a month a no we really need you really try that will go back again

and to be you know individual you think that you know for everything the door

one empirical or rely on the door open

right

right we will be wondering i you get more you

well you

no i

or the u we actually we want them to what you need to know what

would be helpful for you and they do we want you don't really in the

em the dynamic so you know addition in poverty and on enrolling you met

we one hand and that for them

a particular problem and talking about my mind very much a limited beginning at the

then my goal would be you know by the end of any sort of interaction

that they would be really in the for the thing on their own

and you look at it may be more what we come with the wreck i

think it a bit more in my in the than that may be that what

we created a nominee i the program written style and

and in addition to that they're kind of the demand now there's an input the

me and that the data that comes from the program look like you know to

be something that you can elect phonetic something that extremely difficult for anyone actually act

though a lot of what we you kind of depends on the even the partnership

or any kind of the at and

and how the goal is that eventually they wanted to a one can or you

know making take them l i think we view of the bit

you know their common the main here in here right now the integral in work

and improve government and no one and so i think we feel better what we're

doing it having instrumental in that by training data can help

right the in accountability and though we like the at the packet or you know

yes what we're doing now rate the ball

and they you know within government you have entered that are like inter transcriber vector

can give a definitely a you know that can hear the inner that the with

the public that are okay the data have to really be good or you know

you don't really have you know like the data were acquired using the praat here

it somehow not inflating and the

in the public factor and we're trying to be a part of thing that we

need to happen in the same way in the public vector that the private

nonetheless okay they had on the something the most reliable work is the simplest thing

a lot of what we

really do you know going back idea fitting with programmer in a room in talking

with the mother code and why they would actually one

and why not actually improve their live and what we do not high enough and

that you know i analysing and annotated data with online in you know it

it not probably gonna get to a paper and a kernel those it really differ

from the you probably that the you know my organization have come from you know

related you know not wackier thank elliot how much impact on the be very

i don't you think that really why under the radar when they happen a lot

of time but they are taken have the big impact so you know right then

when and talk about programmer and everything one when the programmer for the next year

old only but i believe we would really likely to provide training for one month

and how we can improve what we're doing that knew that

bad working that i mean and happened and knowing where the relation to have been

you know you're or in kind of

where exactly repeated either and you know people coming anything they're gonna change any and

all that and now they're that then how can we actually an improvement

and that needed probably will

i mean out of every that we done in the i hope people you know

we can calculate a coherent we would change in our country that you robot can

actually

and you know you think data

in the big

okay so marked up and what we learn another you the record you know we're

have entirely for that matter navigable if you go in and they were here the

long island on it is not possible but what i think of a great thing

we have the right of programming parking loud either one or creole you know we

have a new minister in the for the program in you actually very intent of

you know you talk about rolling at a and

you know kind of limiting and changing the purpose of the program in a way

that can really coke al

and he had a positive impact on and me having so

you know we have all the final round you know very different group thing all

not lot of

a lot of what we've done anything will change

you know nothing like how people are making that have exactly getting program going in

that the lower right but not in the right up and of the program the

ministry of all the palm in which is actually a grammar the ministry in the

after the ministry of defence very large

but i a no

i coming anything all you know when the help of an important on obviously not

gonna it's not the problem over there are notable or but

no even the part of the lapel the time consuming and you know like it

involves the actually hardly they can bear a large group but they cannot be you

know

a major challenge to

but i you think that a better than in poland the m for our

we've been working with you and then administered a result there and i went and

with at thirty four level or talking about the training that they have

instead we can you i approach them or and i thought that kind of crazy

they have you know the rounding the viewing and probably will given to try that

they have actually very poor very end with harvard one for and then a couple

of the universe be they have a couple good one a couple very poor where

you directly from the u i the degree could be i had a paper

and the week that okay we're gonna come and then what paper today the power

granted you and you know we're gonna try to look you and make sure that

whatever we then you can be very useful for you

and that we train that the people level and then a shortly after that happened

that the common and you data training to be a five all are now without

the help with the entire quickly redesign were thinking about

i will make the decision where the

you can and made clear that we can think of the grey or because it

would be you have a lot in poland optimally on what happens when i in

particular even when the thing at the level i mean they're basically the ultimate authority

within their that directly

you had like a hundred and the direct but if the cover you know it

can cover a large amount of people like inheriting them by like that

the people do you have a lot in one may be pointed out that then

where we can we can write value and i being in their fitting with them

and q what type of the you know what the training was really useful

and them a lot and that they have the is that

kind of the on the work we can with radii with either and you have

a new government initiative and then you digital in the end of the then we

point out by the department in r l one time information technology now be done

to work we use another common in

right training enough to provide technical the that they have you gotten and actually

looking at a you know what data that look like what technical and if you

write it for the period program and we provide a nominal provided all that there

is definitely more of an appetite

that will be

or you know basically determine problem and readers have in common ever the german government

those that are you know that are great

you know whether how the continue the on each year you know were hopeful and

currently trying to find actually finding more that make you know robot will you can

you think are not you know you don't come in and

by the government predict my one hundred

these are long term part and problem

o and the kind of iteration

okay

and then that the although they had my presentation if you have any quite in

the coming on there and then you can also look for what they

and then there

it is not here and on the web data well i'm happy to take any

How to use evidence in decision making

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Charity Moore, EPoD India Lead