| 0:00:16 | if we could have all the position paper presenters up at the front | 
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| 0:00:21 | and i think we have this microphone and the lapel mic there | 
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| 0:00:26 | so our first question is for format | 
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| 0:00:31 | who pointed out that there is already a commercial application | 
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| 0:00:34 | involving negotiation dialogs so what other kinds of application involving negotiation or non-cooperative dialogue can | 
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| 0:00:40 | you in addition | 
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| 0:00:44 | okay so | 
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| 0:00:46 | basically this is machines don't have any preferences | 
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| 0:00:50 | but they can express constraints so the negotiation between a user and a machine | 
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| 0:00:56 | general user that comes with preferences and machine that have | 
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| 0:01:02 | that has some constraints | 
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| 0:01:04 | and that the user is not aware | 
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| 0:01:09 | so than the most commonly deployed the negotiation dialogue system nowadays it's probably the appointment | 
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| 0:01:16 | scheduling | 
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| 0:01:18 | there has been a lot of work on the on this task | 
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| 0:01:21 | and | 
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| 0:01:24 | and it still i still walking quite pretty well | 
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| 0:01:31 | and but for the future even human operators are not too low to really negotiate | 
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| 0:01:39 | with the customers | 
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| 0:01:41 | so | 
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| 0:01:42 | i | 
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| 0:01:44 | i guess it's we want to load that for the four systems right now and | 
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| 0:01:49 | neither | 
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| 0:01:50 | but we can we can imagine that in the game industry there that would be | 
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| 0:01:55 | a lot of a lot of by gaining a stuff like this are trying to | 
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| 0:02:00 | trying to find a way to take information from characters | 
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| 0:02:08 | and stuff like this | 
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| 0:02:14 | the second question is for antenna how can we disentangle stance from sentiment emotion and | 
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| 0:02:20 | negotiation dialogue | 
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| 0:02:27 | i think there is like there's a lot of work and sentiment analysis and stands | 
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| 0:02:31 | recognition in every type of like text but defined a want to make is that | 
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| 0:02:36 | actually negotiation dialogue and especially argumentation | 
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| 0:02:40 | is that different scenario because actually liking this kind of context also like expression on | 
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| 0:02:47 | sentiment is used to express that stance | 
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| 0:02:50 | so it's more difficult to disambiguate need to | 
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| 0:02:54 | that's for sure and also like it could also be the case that you can | 
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| 0:03:00 | have like express no emotion can be used what than as an argument not claim | 
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| 0:03:07 | so i don't have a solution i just think it's more when we have to | 
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| 0:03:11 | deal will like negotiation and argumentation discourse in general this equation is much more complex | 
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| 0:03:17 | and so you have to model different dimension and not just like the pure semantics | 
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| 0:03:23 | of i sentence | 
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| 0:03:30 | the third question is for all good | 
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| 0:03:32 | how can well how can we collect | 
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| 0:03:36 | useful to date datasets for modeling negotiation dialogue | 
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| 0:03:42 | so actually i was examining how many negotiation dialogs we already corpora were already half | 
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| 0:03:47 | and we have pretty | 
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| 0:03:49 | pretty much or a well in different domains but my question was more a big | 
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| 0:03:55 | sv in this section session of you also have argumentative dialogues and what i recently | 
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| 0:04:01 | found out and which can be a quite useful and explore exceed the out the | 
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| 0:04:07 | visual content that we already have like | 
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| 0:04:10 | presidential debates | 
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| 0:04:12 | they are online you to put it up first i started to collect the design | 
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| 0:04:18 | scenarios for metal a corpus i branch true debates in interviews new yorker anti smoking | 
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| 0:04:27 | campaign and | 
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| 0:04:29 | good music is a most of them are already transcribed it's automatic speech recognition but | 
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| 0:04:36 | we can post correct can be save time on these | 
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| 0:04:39 | also a lot of gaming a lot of v t p d at the received | 
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| 0:04:43 | a bit db p at there is that i b m corpus features huge what | 
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| 0:04:49 | we | 
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| 0:04:50 | saved a lot of time on v gave to our professional school experts could meet | 
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| 0:04:56 | these negotiation dialogue and actually be a working a lot of these doctors who need | 
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| 0:05:01 | to convenes and negotiate is that patients shouldn't treatments | 
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| 0:05:05 | so or be designed for them some kind of content creating tools where they can | 
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| 0:05:12 | correct so information that the use and we can use these as a as a | 
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| 0:05:20 | is the two for collecting data | 
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| 0:05:23 | for simulating then extending down to retraining than | 
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| 0:05:29 | using this a real users | 
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| 0:05:31 | and also what they want to address is actually it's very sad everything kiss in | 
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| 0:05:36 | english | 
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| 0:05:38 | so there are | 
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| 0:05:40 | very few corpora for german there is a bit of dutch there is a bit | 
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| 0:05:44 | the french but not out the polish iso polish but well we all represents the | 
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| 0:05:50 | multilingual community it would be nice because | 
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| 0:05:53 | people need this actually in their own languages | 
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| 0:05:57 | for the of | 
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| 0:06:01 | thank you for that great point and the first question is for beth and what | 
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| 0:06:05 | would your like ideal shared task negotiation dialogue if we collected all this | 
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| 0:06:10 | things you suggested look like | 
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| 0:06:15 | well i think that the sort of corpora we've been talking about | 
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| 0:06:20 | be a little more challenging | 
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| 0:06:22 | and then have systems run on all sorts of corpora that would be the obvious | 
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| 0:06:26 | thing to do right | 
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| 0:06:28 | so | 
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| 0:06:30 | i mean even like the cut on corporate you could do that or some of | 
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| 0:06:33 | the corpora are the christian i we're suggesting if we had some of those collected | 
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| 0:06:38 | some of the existing corpora i think | 
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| 0:06:42 | would be best if they were actually negotiation oriented rather than just argumentative | 
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| 0:06:47 | because i think that we know less about what the language looks like in that | 
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| 0:06:53 | negotiation scenario | 
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| 0:06:56 | and particularly i think we know less about what it looks like in terms of | 
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| 0:07:00 | the prosody and the various ways that people actually express emotions and stance and things | 
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| 0:07:10 | like that are not | 
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| 0:07:12 | they're not well captured by just transcribing usually and so you really need to have | 
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| 0:07:17 | corpora that incorporate that and make you able to get it those things | 
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| 0:07:25 | we invite questions from the audience | 
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| 0:07:41 | i had a question about the collection based on jobs and emotional investment that | 
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| 0:07:46 | since people know that it's kind of just plucked is the more real jobs i | 
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| 0:07:52 | do still going to be emotionally invested | 
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| 0:08:02 | went out before we went out for real tool conference so that we wouldn't embarrass | 
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| 0:08:06 | anyone | 
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| 0:08:08 | that were pretty intense am i wrong way | 
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| 0:08:12 | where you would | 
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| 0:08:16 | i also from a particular experience i think if the simulation if the practise is | 
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| 0:08:24 | realistic enough | 
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| 0:08:26 | i think you're emotional apparatus kicks in pretty well and it will be identical to | 
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| 0:08:32 | the real thing but it is probably | 
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| 0:08:35 | pretty close | 
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| 0:08:37 | and you know would give you | 
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| 0:08:40 | it would give you this other scenario right which is more of a real-world scenario | 
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| 0:08:45 | i non gaming sort of real world scenarios | 
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| 0:09:00 | so this is kind of a comments and i guess not try to make it | 
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| 0:09:04 | into a question at some point but | 
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| 0:09:06 | so we | 
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| 0:09:08 | at usc we built this negotiation system on | 
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| 0:09:14 | looking at multi-issue bargaining with records and lance and creates a nice a little bit | 
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| 0:09:19 | about and one of the talks earlier | 
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| 0:09:21 | and one of the things we found is that you know well that kind of | 
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| 0:09:25 | system is easy to define are having apples and bananas since one we talk with | 
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| 0:09:29 | people to actually train others and how to negotiate | 
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| 0:09:33 | and what we found this the lot of the students people who are like doing | 
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| 0:09:39 | in b as learning how to really negotiate real world deals found these system so | 
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| 0:09:47 | simple as to seem almost irrelevant to the kinda negotiation they have to do and | 
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| 0:09:54 | and when you look at the sorts of things come up in real world negotiation | 
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| 0:09:59 | a lot of it is | 
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| 0:10:01 | it's very open ended in it's a very creative exercise a lot of times the | 
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| 0:10:07 | challenge one of the challenges is like figuring out what the even care about twenty | 
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| 0:10:11 | start out you don't know if it's apples or bananas maybe what they care about | 
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| 0:10:15 | is like hedging a certain kind of risk or something like that and you have | 
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| 0:10:19 | to do a lot of work to discover that | 
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| 0:10:22 | and then they can be quite creative and how they you know resolve those issues | 
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| 0:10:28 | so it may be able to insert some weird legal terms in the contract that | 
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| 0:10:34 | allow them to kinda | 
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| 0:10:35 | and meted out that risk that they perceive and so i think a challenge for | 
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| 0:10:40 | us as the | 
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| 0:10:42 | community trying to model the stuff computational use you know how do we get how | 
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| 0:10:46 | do we get into the space of all kind of the complexity of real world | 
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| 0:10:51 | kind of discussions that come up it and negotiation and i think in some cases | 
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| 0:10:56 | we can get there by looking at | 
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| 0:10:59 | things like job interviews where you it is a real-world scenario because you have pretty | 
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| 0:11:05 | standard things a get negotiated like salary in vacation and can i work remotely and | 
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| 0:11:10 | all those sorts of things | 
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| 0:11:13 | but i think are six sn kind of like having these things have impacts you | 
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| 0:11:18 | know depends on us kinda really engaging beyond | 
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| 0:11:22 | you know the bananas and apples and kind of getting in and two terms that | 
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| 0:11:26 | people that really need to learn these skills you know can benefit from | 
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| 0:11:32 | i guess my question is | 
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| 0:11:34 | do you need you guys | 
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| 0:11:37 | have ideas about kind of how do you how do you make this stuff appeal | 
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| 0:11:42 | you know and the real world to people that really need to learn to negotiate | 
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| 0:11:46 | at super important and really valuable to people | 
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| 0:11:49 | you know that i think that's important for the community | 
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| 0:11:54 | well it's very good question i i'm not claiming i can on so this hundred | 
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| 0:11:59 | percent but i think negotiation skills are quite complex and for some people a pot | 
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| 0:12:04 | of negotiation scale well what this negotiation skills what's involved is the presentation is that | 
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| 0:12:10 | approximation is that's up | 
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| 0:12:13 | money touring what the other is doing is it's reflecting go on what we try | 
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| 0:12:17 | to not to lock it was met the cognitive skills training so it's money during | 
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| 0:12:21 | what department is doing to find out trying to find out it's pretty his preferences | 
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| 0:12:28 | and act accordingly cooperatively non-cooperative lee and depending on your preferences to send to you | 
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| 0:12:34 | so | 
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| 0:12:36 | but did for politicians and that that's it and do formant not be dialogue system | 
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| 0:12:42 | in a sense of speech and vol still in perfect it was a bit though | 
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| 0:12:46 | for | 
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| 0:12:48 | annoying long but the apt negotiation aptitude built on they found the to very useful | 
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| 0:12:55 | and they like to use it to posts the game it was very engaging and | 
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| 0:13:01 | this so the poignant they try to train to calm to parental efficient outcome we | 
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| 0:13:08 | are no improvement is possible unless you hard out there | 
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| 0:13:12 | so and it was very useful for them are when they got what is the | 
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| 0:13:17 | sns | 
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| 0:13:19 | so i | 
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| 0:13:21 | i would say i wouldn't break down the negotiation skills in two | 
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| 0:13:26 | set of skills that are necessary and train maybe | 
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| 0:13:31 | we also have | 
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| 0:13:32 | i'm would be to | 
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| 0:13:34 | jumping from the also for people | 
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| 0:13:37 | to select themselves what be seeing for them is important to train | 
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| 0:13:42 | so i want to train joss presentation or i want to train a quality of | 
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| 0:13:48 | the arguments are present different my position or i want to train other | 
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| 0:13:54 | so maybe | 
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| 0:13:59 | to elaborate on that a little bit i think i one of the things that | 
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| 0:14:02 | attractive to me about negotiation is it's one of these domains where you can't do | 
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| 0:14:08 | it the way that you just rain through and do the | 
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| 0:14:12 | what rest italian restaurant is downtown you know it's complex and i think what we | 
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| 0:14:19 | need here is that classical we and in et al i which is to do | 
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| 0:14:23 | abstraction | 
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| 0:14:25 | right so i think that | 
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| 0:14:26 | the whole | 
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| 0:14:27 | the way you put together a system's gotta be at a different level of abstraction | 
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| 0:14:32 | then some of the systems that we've been seeing and i think that's the attraction | 
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| 0:14:46 | so we know that negotiation even if the simple a kind of what we've been | 
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| 0:14:51 | doing right now it's already very difficult because it's | 
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| 0:14:55 | it requires game theory elements is very difficult to train very difficult to have a | 
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| 0:15:01 | something that is not easily exploitable by their whether it with the player | 
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| 0:15:09 | so | 
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| 0:15:11 | it's a bit like a poker game somehow and | 
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| 0:15:15 | so you have to hide you information but at the same time you want to | 
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| 0:15:18 | you want to you want to get what you want | 
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| 0:15:22 | and so even it's | 
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| 0:15:25 | no very soon | 
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| 0:15:26 | simple form it's | 
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| 0:15:28 | it's already very difficult to solve | 
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| 0:15:30 | and if you add to this very complex so | 
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| 0:15:34 | right context make an is | 
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| 0:15:36 | it's very difficult to deal with it at all at once | 
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| 0:15:41 | well as that's why we built simulator that abstracted everything that is not the negotiation | 
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| 0:15:47 | game itself | 
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| 0:15:53 | i always thought that actually like a good weight to improve negotiation skills i like | 
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| 0:16:00 | the remediation so starting mediation unlike have a mediator of would i eight | 
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| 0:16:08 | actually it's i think it's a good way to understand what are like a controversial | 
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| 0:16:14 | fines and how to lexical what difference of opinion or how to being perceives e | 
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| 0:16:19 | and so on | 
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| 0:16:30 | alright well we are almost at the end of our time so i just want | 
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| 0:16:34 | to reiterate that | 
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| 0:16:35 | the position papers and links to the same down signal papers for the session are | 
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| 0:16:40 | on the sessions website as well as pointers to resources and a | 
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| 0:16:44 | bibliography | 
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| 0:16:45 | so thank you all for coming and i think the next session started three thirty | 
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