| 0:00:14 | welcome mean i'm really pleased to be here i also sort of a a an economist a member group of | 
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| 0:00:20 | engineers and i understand physicist | 
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| 0:00:23 | um | 
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| 0:00:24 | that i've been working closely with a a a group of cornell that sort of dominated by uh | 
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| 0:00:32 | and is uh uh and lang tong is here bob thomas is really are sort of | 
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| 0:00:37 | leader | 
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| 0:00:38 | who's not here the moment | 
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| 0:00:41 | um i one | 
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| 0:00:42 | the paper i wrote was really about to why is it that electricity markets a soap or Q rear | 
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| 0:00:48 | and and just on like any of the market that i of a looked at that | 
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| 0:00:53 | uh and uh i i've got a couple of P here | 
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| 0:00:57 | that i'll mention but i really want to spend more time | 
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| 0:01:00 | on what i think is going to change in the future | 
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| 0:01:04 | um because i think that the way that we've model D my and | 
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| 0:01:08 | up until now with | 
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| 0:01:10 | completely inadequate for the sorts of things that we going to need to do in the future | 
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| 0:01:15 | and in particular | 
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| 0:01:17 | that we're going to | 
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| 0:01:18 | rely more on price feedback | 
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| 0:01:21 | to get a response from the on that really | 
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| 0:01:24 | is is pretty a minimal at the moment in the way that systems have evolved over time | 
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| 0:01:30 | uh | 
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| 0:01:32 | so | 
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| 0:01:33 | one of the | 
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| 0:01:34 | one of the interesting things that that happened off to markets would deregulated in the U | 
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| 0:01:41 | is the prices were so that had never been seen before | 
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| 0:01:45 | that all of a sudden | 
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| 0:01:47 | prices is were sometimes | 
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| 0:01:49 | almost two orders of magnitude bigger than any price is that it that been seen before | 
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| 0:01:55 | so you can see you know a you little little little little prices and then talk | 
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| 0:02:00 | deregulation regulation | 
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| 0:02:01 | yeah | 
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| 0:02:02 | and and and we have price is over a thousand dollars where typically there less than a hundred | 
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| 0:02:08 | um | 
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| 0:02:09 | the strategy in in the east part of the U S | 
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| 0:02:13 | is that um | 
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| 0:02:17 | but the but this is a bad behaviour | 
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| 0:02:20 | and we need to suppress it so they have employ a vast quantities of market monitor | 
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| 0:02:26 | to slap people's hands when they misbehave | 
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| 0:02:30 | and so you can see | 
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| 0:02:31 | that the century | 
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| 0:02:33 | no that initial | 
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| 0:02:34 | exuberant | 
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| 0:02:36 | of of the part of | 
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| 0:02:37 | supply as and their ability to speculated and they're get high prices | 
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| 0:02:42 | i has really been suppressed | 
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| 0:02:44 | if you go to the australian market on the other hand you C Ds price spikes have continued and the | 
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| 0:02:50 | really to | 
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| 0:02:51 | types of markets | 
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| 0:02:53 | one is | 
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| 0:02:54 | highly highly monitored markets and the other one energy only markets where you're let these price spikes six this | 
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| 0:03:01 | and | 
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| 0:03:02 | so an interesting question is why is it that this marketing encourages speculation | 
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| 0:03:09 | and this is a a a a a an analysis that we did with computer agents | 
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| 0:03:13 | and basically these are identical agents | 
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| 0:03:16 | and on the left | 
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| 0:03:17 | the agents | 
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| 0:03:18 | do not speculate i'm on the right they do speculate | 
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| 0:03:22 | and the real issue it is that in an electricity market | 
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| 0:03:26 | there's a lot of uncertainty | 
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| 0:03:28 | uh a about | 
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| 0:03:29 | what exactly is going to happen in the next ten minutes lead a known | 
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| 0:03:34 | a day ahead | 
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| 0:03:35 | so this uncertainty about how much the | 
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| 0:03:39 | system operator is going to buy a essentially makes it possible for some absolutely outrageous speculative off as to be | 
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| 0:03:47 | accepted sometimes | 
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| 0:03:49 | and to set the market price | 
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| 0:03:51 | um so this is a a you know a an interesting feature | 
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| 0:03:55 | of of uh | 
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| 0:03:56 | market so | 
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| 0:03:57 | we model this type of behaviour with the regime switching essentially sensually low price high price for Z | 
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| 0:04:04 | and | 
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| 0:04:04 | and make the probability of switching | 
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| 0:04:08 | uh dependent on | 
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| 0:04:09 | on system conditions and | 
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| 0:04:12 | i in in particular the expected | 
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| 0:04:15 | reserve margin so we were interested in can you predict | 
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| 0:04:19 | price bites the day ahead and | 
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| 0:04:21 | you know the bottom line is | 
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| 0:04:23 | if the or information is good enough yes you can | 
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| 0:04:26 | um | 
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| 0:04:28 | but when price spikes when away way you know we had to move to other things | 
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| 0:04:33 | so the next topic is really | 
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| 0:04:35 | a spatial price differentiation | 
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| 0:04:39 | so | 
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| 0:04:40 | this is a map of new york am for those of you are for not familiar with new york | 
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| 0:04:44 | most of the people live down here in new york city | 
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| 0:04:48 | and this is niagara falls and basically that's the main feature of the electric system the people live down in | 
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| 0:04:56 | one corner and the chief power up the other corner | 
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| 0:05:00 | uh on this C here stands for cornell | 
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| 0:05:03 | um and uh | 
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| 0:05:04 | we are about you know in the middle of the state | 
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| 0:05:08 | but the logic of the system is that you | 
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| 0:05:11 | you we'll power from the inexpensive expensive | 
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| 0:05:15 | west | 
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| 0:05:16 | down to the south the east corner | 
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| 0:05:18 | there are those a lot of congestion that peak periods | 
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| 0:05:22 | so basically the market friend man | 
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| 0:05:25 | and you get substantially higher prices in new york city then the price at the same time | 
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| 0:05:31 | uh in upstate new york | 
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| 0:05:33 | so that that that uh mechanisms what put in to a our generative as | 
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| 0:05:39 | to hedge the price variability between two locations | 
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| 0:05:45 | and as sensually uh that's what | 
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| 0:05:48 | that's what we're talking about | 
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| 0:05:50 | so it | 
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| 0:05:51 | it's very easy | 
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| 0:05:52 | to model | 
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| 0:05:53 | uh energy prices as a recursive system | 
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| 0:05:58 | and basically | 
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| 0:05:59 | um | 
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| 0:06:01 | you model | 
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| 0:06:03 | uh | 
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| 0:06:04 | load is of | 
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| 0:06:06 | a a a a a is a sense you model temperature are | 
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| 0:06:09 | and and time put your proposed i the sort of source of uncertainty about what's gonna happen next some | 
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| 0:06:16 | so i want to hedge prices for the are coming some or all of the upcoming winter | 
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| 0:06:21 | um between | 
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| 0:06:22 | not i fools and new york city | 
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| 0:06:24 | so | 
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| 0:06:26 | we model temperature your those locations | 
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| 0:06:29 | we model the load as a function of time but your | 
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| 0:06:32 | and that | 
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| 0:06:33 | we and model the price | 
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| 0:06:35 | a a different locations as a function of the load | 
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| 0:06:39 | and the the price of natural gas to sort of a price of an input | 
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| 0:06:43 | but basically this work or stiff structure | 
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| 0:06:45 | um is is a | 
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| 0:06:47 | while i should say appropriate for the | 
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| 0:06:50 | in this story | 
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| 0:06:51 | most customers don't actually | 
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| 0:06:53 | see the true market price that just paying regulating prices | 
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| 0:06:58 | so essentially those there's no price feedback | 
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| 0:07:01 | there's is a straightforward forward um | 
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| 0:07:05 | V i ar model | 
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| 0:07:07 | vector autoregressive regressive model | 
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| 0:07:09 | and we just simulated different | 
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| 0:07:12 | uh us mos | 
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| 0:07:13 | and then looked at the price differences | 
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| 0:07:16 | and you could get a | 
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| 0:07:18 | uh | 
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| 0:07:18 | but | 
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| 0:07:19 | a distribution of the payouts | 
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| 0:07:22 | from owning | 
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| 0:07:23 | one of these uh | 
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| 0:07:25 | for contract | 
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| 0:07:27 | so you're contract thing for the price difference as you put your money on the table | 
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| 0:07:31 | and you're buying an on so it an income re | 
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| 0:07:35 | so | 
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| 0:07:35 | there's essentially century | 
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| 0:07:37 | it's the | 
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| 0:07:38 | simulated | 
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| 0:07:39 | density for the house | 
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| 0:07:41 | hey out | 
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| 0:07:42 | and uh the system operators were very can so and | 
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| 0:07:46 | that they kept on paying out more money | 
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| 0:07:49 | in real than than money they talk in from running this distortion | 
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| 0:07:54 | and they eight they were suspicious that a might be | 
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| 0:07:58 | a collective behavior in this market | 
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| 0:08:00 | but in the analysis that we did | 
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| 0:08:03 | but this is a typical result | 
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| 0:08:05 | that the | 
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| 0:08:06 | sure | 
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| 0:08:07 | pay a a a a the actual price | 
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| 0:08:10 | with where the above of the mean of the payouts all the was no the dense that we could find | 
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| 0:08:15 | of a sort of | 
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| 0:08:15 | big risk premium in this market | 
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| 0:08:18 | and therefore the system operated was not interested in this analysis so | 
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| 0:08:23 | didn't sort of support their prize | 
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| 0:08:26 | so uh see her we do not when doing | 
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| 0:08:29 | so now let's that's got on the importance of subject | 
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| 0:08:33 | um | 
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| 0:08:34 | the future joe | 
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| 0:08:35 | smart rate | 
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| 0:08:39 | so | 
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| 0:08:40 | where assuming and this you smart grid that we going to switch from fossil fuels to renewable sources and certainly | 
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| 0:08:47 | your is leading the way and the us to sort of dragging its feet to get into this new era | 
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| 0:08:54 | but | 
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| 0:08:58 | this is basically what we have to deal with | 
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| 0:09:01 | oops not that | 
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| 0:09:04 | more when generation | 
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| 0:09:07 | we got have some storage capacity to deal with the fact that that uh | 
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| 0:09:13 | we in this not a typical | 
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| 0:09:15 | a dispatch able source of supply | 
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| 0:09:18 | as a lot of uncertainty and variability even if you've got lots of different wind far | 
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| 0:09:24 | so | 
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| 0:09:25 | you're displacing | 
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| 0:09:26 | fossil fuels wholesale prices go down but this means that | 
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| 0:09:31 | the warnings | 
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| 0:09:32 | the money above cost | 
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| 0:09:34 | that | 
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| 0:09:35 | conventional generate get is also going down so that those are growing tension | 
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| 0:09:41 | which we | 
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| 0:09:42 | the what we've called financial at a course C | 
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| 0:09:46 | all | 
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| 0:09:47 | the existing generate is | 
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| 0:09:49 | and um | 
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| 0:09:51 | the the | 
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| 0:09:52 | the uh they get in the market so | 
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| 0:09:55 | uh in in the new in the uh us markets we we have established | 
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| 0:10:00 | uh capacity payments | 
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| 0:10:02 | outside the wholesale market to try to supplement | 
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| 0:10:06 | the uh learning self generate | 
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| 0:10:09 | so essentially century | 
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| 0:10:10 | um | 
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| 0:10:12 | lower uh a learnings in the wholesale market means higher uh | 
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| 0:10:15 | payments in the capacity market a higher price for capacity and more reason | 
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| 0:10:21 | for managing the system peak managing to monte in a more | 
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| 0:10:26 | uh i | 
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| 0:10:27 | it's a russian way | 
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| 0:10:29 | we we tend to treat it | 
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| 0:10:31 | the demand on as a as a given as something it you and and those days are basically over | 
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| 0:10:38 | so | 
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| 0:10:39 | customers and not getting the correct economic signals that a lot of them paying regulated prices is this is silly | 
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| 0:10:46 | um | 
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| 0:10:47 | that that that we need to we need to get a team and | 
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| 0:10:50 | participating in this new market in of full way and this doesn't mean just buying | 
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| 0:10:56 | when prices a low | 
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| 0:10:58 | uh it means to shifting | 
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| 0:11:01 | the mine from P periods to one peak period and a little so i think more importantly | 
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| 0:11:07 | i lane and celery is that don't actually a | 
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| 0:11:11 | is this yet into the mark | 
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| 0:11:13 | and ramping service is is the one that | 
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| 0:11:16 | will focus on | 
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| 0:11:17 | so | 
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| 0:11:18 | one of the ways of doing this is with controllable de monte and that doesn't have | 
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| 0:11:23 | to | 
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| 0:11:24 | B | 
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| 0:11:24 | delivered instantaneously like these like | 
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| 0:11:28 | so | 
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| 0:11:29 | so what electric vehicles as a good example "'cause" | 
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| 0:11:31 | charging the batteries in electric vehicles | 
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| 0:11:34 | but | 
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| 0:11:36 | it's not not enough | 
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| 0:11:38 | a an now for a little things around the at to make much difference so we really need a know | 
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| 0:11:42 | the source and and the U S | 
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| 0:11:44 | with the system that's really dominated by the air conditioning a that's sets | 
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| 0:11:50 | the | 
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| 0:11:51 | conditions for a systematic C | 
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| 0:11:55 | almost or is an obvious alternative to using | 
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| 0:11:59 | um air conditioning on the on | 
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| 0:12:02 | so basically making a nice when the system | 
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| 0:12:05 | finds it convenient | 
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| 0:12:06 | and then melting the ice to keep color when you want to keep cool is a smarter way of doing | 
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| 0:12:12 | things and just banging on the air condition | 
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| 0:12:15 | when you want cool your and | 
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| 0:12:17 | and | 
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| 0:12:18 | we we what for | 
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| 0:12:20 | at | 
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| 0:12:21 | how much of the | 
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| 0:12:23 | system load | 
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| 0:12:25 | is is uh | 
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| 0:12:26 | temperature sensitive and in new york city | 
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| 0:12:29 | you know this gives you an idea it's about two thousand megawatts out of | 
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| 0:12:33 | twelve | 
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| 0:12:34 | the potentially | 
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| 0:12:36 | is is uh | 
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| 0:12:37 | champ should | 
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| 0:12:39 | it is temperature sensitive and could be control | 
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| 0:12:42 | hot hot water is obviously another example of these sorts of or | 
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| 0:12:49 | where you can control them | 
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| 0:12:50 | so | 
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| 0:12:52 | when when one starts incorporating a control of all and into the system | 
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| 0:12:57 | this is really the same as as any type of storage | 
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| 0:13:01 | so what we've got here | 
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| 0:13:03 | is | 
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| 0:13:03 | what customers want to buy | 
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| 0:13:06 | the blue line is what customers | 
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| 0:13:10 | by | 
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| 0:13:11 | now of a way in generation so the blue is really what the conventional generate is have to supply | 
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| 0:13:18 | and you can say wind was blowing pretty smoothly and and that that that that that uh we we get | 
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| 0:13:23 | some | 
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| 0:13:24 | some variability that's in how and with this source of generation | 
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| 0:13:29 | so | 
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| 0:13:29 | we propose the that | 
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| 0:13:31 | that in addition to | 
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| 0:13:33 | and a G the or to be a ramp so this where you're was actually | 
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| 0:13:38 | hey | 
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| 0:13:39 | if you | 
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| 0:13:40 | a part of the | 
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| 0:13:42 | majority you're moving the same why that the system is moving but if you could move against that you get | 
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| 0:13:48 | paid in in in a way if you can mitigate | 
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| 0:13:52 | the changes in what conventional generators as a doing | 
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| 0:13:56 | you get paid so once you incorporate that | 
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| 0:13:59 | over on this side | 
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| 0:14:00 | you can see that the | 
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| 0:14:02 | the variability of the | 
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| 0:14:05 | generation from conventional sources is essentially smoothed out | 
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| 0:14:12 | oops | 
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| 0:14:13 | so the same thing is true | 
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| 0:14:16 | of the energy prices | 
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| 0:14:17 | that the energy prices get smooth out by | 
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| 0:14:21 | ramping | 
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| 0:14:23 | and the corresponding | 
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| 0:14:24 | rand being price is a very interesting | 
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| 0:14:28 | but the they | 
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| 0:14:30 | but the real cost | 
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| 0:14:32 | of ramping | 
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| 0:14:33 | the the these prices | 
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| 0:14:35 | a a very very variable because of winn | 
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| 0:14:38 | so you can see you when the wind was well behaved there | 
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| 0:14:42 | ramping prices a pretty mode | 
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| 0:14:44 | but when the wind with variable you got a lot of variability and the | 
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| 0:14:49 | then the marginal cost of ramping | 
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| 0:14:52 | and that when you incorporate the ramp cost in the optimisation | 
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| 0:14:57 | you were essentially smooth out the ramp | 
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| 0:15:00 | the really implication is | 
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| 0:15:01 | that | 
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| 0:15:02 | and | 
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| 0:15:04 | that that this is the sort of a | 
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| 0:15:06 | uh and say laurie of is that i think we need | 
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| 0:15:09 | to allow | 
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| 0:15:11 | but the on side to benefit from | 
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| 0:15:14 | that that we have customers who were complaining about paying higher cost | 
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| 0:15:19 | so the smart grid | 
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| 0:15:20 | i i think the way to make this | 
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| 0:15:23 | economically viable | 
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| 0:15:25 | is that | 
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| 0:15:26 | rather than looking at | 
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| 0:15:28 | uh | 
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| 0:15:28 | customers as has a sink | 
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| 0:15:30 | by energy | 
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| 0:15:32 | that we ought to look at cost or where aggregates | 
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| 0:15:35 | as potential sources of services to support the great | 
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| 0:15:39 | and that's basically | 
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| 0:15:41 | what these are concluding remarks say | 
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| 0:15:44 | um | 
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| 0:15:45 | customers can lower one net payment by having control able uh them on | 
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| 0:15:50 | purchasing more energy a night if you like | 
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| 0:15:53 | mitigating price spikes | 
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| 0:15:55 | and | 
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| 0:15:56 | i | 
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| 0:15:58 | and and reducing them on your system P periods essentially using the amount of | 
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| 0:16:03 | conventional capacity needed for at a course C | 
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| 0:16:07 | and finally | 
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| 0:16:08 | selling ramping services to mitigate wind variability | 
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| 0:16:12 | but if they can get these payments the net payments for | 
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| 0:16:16 | providing the sort the | 
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| 0:16:18 | so this is that they want to get from electricity will be lower and i think that this is the | 
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| 0:16:23 | way for what | 
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| 0:16:24 | i clearly there's be back is something that is not | 
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| 0:16:27 | really integrated fully into the current grade | 
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| 0:16:31 | and | 
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| 0:16:32 | this is the challenge for all you people in communication | 
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| 0:16:36 | thank you | 
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| 0:16:42 | i think we had time are um | 
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| 0:16:46 | lots of people work on this project | 
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