Speech Transcript - PiTiVi and GES, towards 1.x

0:00:09	alright see so
0:00:12	hello everybody
0:00:13	thanks for being here can everybody hear me directly in the back and in that
0:00:17	side yes
0:00:19	but
0:00:21	so if you hear in this room you probably already know what it is it's
0:00:26	a video editor resonant typhus and made of also
0:00:29	it's cheese weaponry includes such elements as a huge file formats but it see you
0:00:36	can pretty much throw anything in to the T V like
0:00:39	you could we makes windows media video files with your cameras quicktime files and you're
0:00:45	used videos
0:00:46	it has the best of breed you are design it's very user centric it values
0:00:52	efficiency and
0:00:55	it's designed in collaboration with filmmakers and if this experts
0:00:59	in a rather well so and
0:01:03	it's also an avid it's or that aims to not have
0:01:07	this notion of market segmentation that you see in the proprietary well where in the
0:01:12	propriety world you would see well we're making this low and videos it is or
0:01:18	less meat super simple with limited features and the super high in super complicated thing
0:01:24	with five hundred how options in the preference dialogue just so that it looks professional
0:01:29	and we're gonna price differently and this features more interest act and we don't have
0:01:35	that here
0:01:37	so
0:01:40	i want to spend a few minutes to actually talk about the mission the vision
0:01:44	we see why we're working on it why it matters
0:01:49	because i haven't done that very often
0:01:53	i was based i sat down and i started thinking about this after all these
0:01:59	years of being involved in one way or another
0:02:03	with this that project there ought to be a powerful reason
0:02:07	why and other contributors are stuck around and continue pushing things forward
0:02:15	of course everybody starts by scratching an image so i and i remember how in
0:02:19	two thousand five
0:02:21	i want just wanted a replacement for big S
0:02:24	and i thought well this projects really cool it's open source so we don't need
0:02:29	six months right
0:02:31	so that's the reason you get involved in the beginning
0:02:35	but then as time passes
0:02:37	as you make friends to the project
0:02:39	as you see people being enthusiastic about what you do and people putting trusting to
0:02:44	you even this takes a review notes i mean you're fighting against impossible odds
0:02:50	you need to find something more compelling to keep you motivated
0:02:55	and here's what came to my mind
0:02:59	the T V in pretty we believe in allowing everybody on the planet
0:03:04	to express themselves through filmmaking
0:03:06	we choose that they can own and improve
0:03:10	unsurprising yet but that what segment on the website in a surprisingly
0:03:14	recently it's you can to be assisting to means that wow that really resonates with
0:03:19	me
0:03:19	that's exactly my thoughts
0:03:22	so okay at first and this might seem like a very
0:03:26	draw insignificant state
0:03:29	but now it's very powerful actually
0:03:32	it gives you a goal in life to run these people around it
0:03:36	and it's a very important facets of our goals
0:03:40	like allowing everyone that touches upon them know market segmentation thing i mentioned earlier that
0:03:47	means ground much as well as the kids in school doing short films or an
0:03:52	activist recording public protests or and event independent professional filmmaker wants to be a master
0:03:59	of for tools
0:04:02	we want to capture to all those people
0:04:06	and the notion of mastery brings a second element in that statement
0:04:11	which is owning and improving the software it has to be open source
0:04:16	it has to be easily tractable
0:04:19	so it's disgusting partition
0:04:22	of course made of also
0:04:23	you have to clean code base
0:04:25	and has a clear documentation around how to get involved in the project
0:04:31	so how do we do all these things
0:04:34	well that this means a couple of things
0:04:37	this means the at the forefront of technologies the latest educated latest use your
0:04:43	we have this upstream first approach which
0:04:48	people in the just in the community and of to the right i mean see
0:04:51	will probably be familiar with already it basically means no axe
0:04:57	you discussed we actually such as opportunity streamer three P K and everything
0:05:03	and you work out solutions in corporation with them and you don't put some stupid
0:05:07	have in your application downstream
0:05:11	in that a fixing the problem for everybody
0:05:16	and you each your own that food of course so you and you talk with
0:05:20	filmmakers i have to make a right to consider myself a filmmaker and go on
0:05:26	with are rather we have
0:05:28	and to T V also acts as a catalyst
0:05:31	it's a torture test for G streamers so these guys we kind of like you're
0:05:35	scared of me way ready and running a
0:05:39	at chasing them down conferences
0:05:43	so
0:05:44	completing this mission is the property it's rather difficult
0:05:50	technically speaking it's a very complex piece of software
0:05:54	and to add some more difficulty well your users are typically not developers otherwise they're
0:06:01	of every we are a there are your users are typically not developers and your
0:06:05	developers are often not users
0:06:08	or the ones that where users and became developers are not uses anymore sometimes a
0:06:13	very interesting station
0:06:15	and there is no sustainable business model around an open source we do it it's
0:06:19	or because it's just too much of an each
0:06:22	and you have too much competition from the provided video editors which are actually pretty
0:06:27	good
0:06:29	and that's just the surface of this thing if you're right interested in details of
0:06:36	the economics of open source video editing software and everything i you can check out
0:06:41	the presentations i gave that did like graphics meeting two thousand ninety two thousand eleven
0:06:46	or maybe we can discuss those things and now something but that those presentations are
0:06:51	actually on the P G website so they are easy to find
0:06:55	and for this for the next the or for this a talk or the next
0:07:01	lose you slightly i'll be focusing more on the technical side and a little a
0:07:08	little bit of gonna mix
0:07:11	i'll be mentioning what we've been doing for about one or two years you're doing
0:07:15	now what will be doing next
0:07:20	so in two thousand and ten
0:07:25	G S came out
0:07:26	it's a nice you guys very there is part of this tumour and allows you
0:07:30	to create
0:07:31	audio and video editing applications without requiring at the H T in astrophysics
0:07:38	so it's meant to be a complete highly and high level solution and not just
0:07:43	for everything but also playback and coding media discovery et cetera
0:07:49	and it's basically the result of the years of experience in developing it's easy another
0:07:54	applications in the despair world "'cause" you have seen on and but you know i
0:08:00	mean it's nineties timing and dynamic pipelines and all that that's nearly not enough
0:08:06	for you need you need far more than that to be able to make a
0:08:11	real we do it at the
0:08:14	so G S is nice a uses also uses very subgoal centric technologies like G
0:08:19	to G object so it uses G T K dot still i think
0:08:24	and it's fully introspective so you can use it in parts and you can use
0:08:27	it in that in the other languages
0:08:30	but fight and it's best of course
0:08:33	and then in late two thousand ten so one year and something later and early
0:08:39	two thousand twelve we decided in the P C project well
0:08:43	it's time to switch to gas it would be a good thing to do because
0:08:47	it doesn't make any sense to maintain your own if you think back and anymore
0:08:51	and it would be stupid not to make a reference usable for other projects
0:08:56	so at one last year
0:08:59	this was a status report that we have on this was are tremendous that's is
0:09:04	around E S
0:09:05	you had the core features in the first group
0:09:08	that were implemented
0:09:10	and some features the second group that we're being worked on as power to the
0:09:15	summer of code
0:09:16	and the remaining features on the road map or left to the future
0:09:21	and this does not include the features in an improvement simply T V itself that's
0:09:25	pretty much just centric around the port to gas so i don't really have time
0:09:30	to go over this in this presentation but if you're curious you can go to
0:09:33	the T website
0:09:35	there is a on the showcases a recording of my talk and what it two
0:09:38	thousand twelve which turns out to be the only surviving record of what the two
0:09:43	thousand twelve and it was it would be T V coincidence i think not
0:09:51	and then in early two thousand well without okay the plan is we stay will
0:09:55	actually a gas we try to get a release out of the door a sad
0:10:01	before looking at working to just one or one point zero because i just run
0:10:06	point there is not yet ready you know we weren't sure
0:10:10	but then assess you once we were in a situation where
0:10:13	well nobody was looking at system is over that's anymore
0:10:18	and were quite behind already the are initial schedule so at this point in time
0:10:22	to make incense
0:10:24	to keep going with zero that ten
0:10:27	and to get any amount of support we needed to use just or one point
0:10:31	zero
0:10:33	well other than that
0:10:36	we didn't foresee a huge amount of work left to be
0:10:40	able to make a newbie to release
0:10:44	the biggest obstacles we predicted
0:10:48	where that we would have to switch to discover one point zero and you take
0:10:51	a three and you to construct spectrum all at once
0:10:56	because of the complex tonight's topic sixteen this picture
0:11:00	and
0:11:02	so
0:11:04	not such a big deal
0:11:07	yes
0:11:08	and then
0:11:10	okay
0:11:11	and system of one point zero and one of so will be here
0:11:16	and i'll see all those little a you know like with the
0:11:20	you know if we just take care of those where we're done right but that's
0:11:25	really vote
0:11:27	is a hard thing you
0:11:30	i'm sorry
0:11:32	a violent
0:11:33	this however
0:11:37	this one point zero
0:11:48	wait what going off like
0:11:53	i think that's
0:11:55	but exact holes
0:11:57	over the
0:12:02	really that is gonna take care of this time
0:12:07	my i think she it is
0:12:11	all this work
0:12:15	there is a stuff can in the just replace plug-ins
0:12:21	it's not a summary of what has happened the last few months
0:12:32	and that's here we are when you're to what it two thousand well with that
0:12:36	bunch of new regressions that have been fixed and well and you features implemented and
0:12:42	at time of worked on two dates use your
0:12:47	and contrary to the last year this light only talks about the president's
0:12:51	the first list of items are what's don and either all features that we're reimplemented
0:12:58	usually much better than before or new features
0:13:02	and the lower the last is the buttons that we items or stuff that we're
0:13:08	still working on this summer
0:13:12	so let's look at the future what are we doing right now what's
0:13:18	in the compare
0:13:20	well i have always have a bunch of plants based on my own intuition and
0:13:25	my experience as a filmmaker once in a while is good to take a good
0:13:31	hard look at yourself and we evaluate the priorities and ask your user days what's
0:13:37	the most urgent and important then
0:13:41	so we recently made this survey asking well what the users want because it's you
0:13:47	know all about users
0:13:51	so we have a sample of that thousand three hundred and eighteen people when certain
0:13:56	these survey
0:13:57	the source the internet's
0:14:00	so i don't know trying to be T V social networks
0:14:03	likeable close all my god we want to thanks mate i have to say thanks
0:14:10	to joyce a then there is always a nice a nice to
0:14:14	help
0:14:16	because the allowed us to get a lot more coverage from different from a different
0:14:20	audience than
0:14:21	if it was just from planet the home or
0:14:25	did you fans
0:14:27	so we have a sample that is a lot more representative of the population at
0:14:32	large sets is to be statistically speaking
0:14:36	some pretty confident in these results
0:14:39	for once
0:14:41	you may think that a sample size of a on a little bit over a
0:14:45	thousand users is not that much
0:14:48	actually i that's something you can find out from my talk that L G M
0:14:53	it's pretty close to the size of the population of people who do video editing
0:14:59	on the next
0:15:01	because you have like you could to estimate to the amount of people are using
0:15:06	and actually this are one percent of people in general do you anything and then
0:15:11	one percent of four percent of one percent or something you end up with not
0:15:15	many people
0:15:17	so it's pretty close to the population size
0:15:21	and so before we and the lies to results let's take a closer look at
0:15:24	the sample
0:15:29	i don't know why i said that the is just
0:15:34	we have a
0:15:35	i a good portion of people who actually strike a T V or arctic to
0:15:39	be users
0:15:41	but we also have a bunch of new people that's a never heard of it
0:15:46	and some people who
0:15:47	just like other software and that's fine it's interesting
0:15:51	because this the surveys not just use for us it's also useful for whoever is
0:15:56	interested in that we do it it's or the point so as to do it
0:15:58	it's a nice
0:16:02	we that could very sample which mostly follows and all normal colour sure
0:16:08	so i have a question in the survey that says how do you rate from
0:16:13	the scale from one to ten how familiar you are would video editing are your
0:16:17	professional or you be so we have a bunch of newbies on the lead well
0:16:22	it's not just like a bunch of newbies and a bunch of professionals that we
0:16:25	have a nice
0:16:27	normal curve
0:16:30	this can work things up a little bit in the next chart because you like
0:16:33	mixing professionals with normal people
0:16:37	but that's okay because we need to we want to capture to everybody and remember
0:16:43	market segmentation is a construct of the mind
0:16:48	rather unsurprising result here
0:16:51	mostly nobody cares about able to platform
0:16:54	or these nobody in our sample
0:16:56	and among those who do only a small fraction would be willing to pay for
0:17:03	an open source we do with the church reported created platforms
0:17:06	so i'm not gonna care about that much
0:17:09	and because frankly we've got enough on our plate already
0:17:14	but if someone offers
0:17:16	so you help or think to be to other platforms are even write a new
0:17:20	video editor based on to yes
0:17:22	you're welcome
0:17:26	do experienced users have a different requirements require regarding the multi platform thing i just
0:17:32	talked about well there's a slightly bigger proportion of then
0:17:36	that care about other platforms but still the vast majority does not care about other
0:17:41	platforms and the next
0:17:42	interesting
0:17:45	and now what do people in general want the most out of an open sort
0:17:49	we do it or
0:17:51	surprise people want basic shape to work first and foremost
0:17:59	and
0:18:00	no one cares about collaborative editing actually
0:18:04	well at least until you've got everything else nailed down
0:18:08	and people didn't believe me when i said that two years ago
0:18:11	well let me say this now i told you still
0:18:16	but i can this is for the entire sample
0:18:18	what if we limit ourselves to a subset that sample let's check what happens if
0:18:23	you take only those we evaluate their skill level to seven or more on a
0:18:27	scale of one to ten
0:18:30	interesting enough
0:18:32	the number one feature is still simplicity and stability
0:18:36	and then comes proxy editing anti free mobile effects properties
0:18:40	suddenly to becomes pretty much just as important as stability
0:18:46	and then really simply to number one feature that instead of stability
0:18:51	all the other features suddenly become a little bit more important
0:18:55	so the take away is that pros want everything and we want all the rock
0:19:01	solid no big surprise
0:19:04	but it does confirm the order of priorities that i didn't suspecting for years
0:19:11	and it validates the features that i'd be in prioritising in the upcoming to be
0:19:15	released
0:19:17	the good news is that much of it also has implemented the key frame able
0:19:21	effect properties recently and that and some of that is a thing is laid the
0:19:26	groundwork for proxy that thing and then so is that it is actually working towards
0:19:31	these slow and fast motion feature
0:19:35	so
0:19:36	we're on our way
0:19:40	be people one quality and stability
0:19:44	and in one of the top users and wanted for free and they want to
0:19:48	know well we knew that
0:19:53	it confirms what we suspected features are nice when stuff works
0:20:00	historically we have a quality and reliability problem including being sure
0:20:05	see those that nice reading we got among which is users
0:20:10	and there's so much that can go wrong in a nonlinear but you know to
0:20:14	meet a pipeline that
0:20:16	below the surface of the you why
0:20:18	we have to address that some
0:20:22	stability is far
0:20:24	stability with a mind boggling complex underlying a non linear fitting application is even harder
0:20:31	it's time for quality so let's try so that's that
0:20:38	they with been thinking about various things
0:20:41	that we might need to do this might be one of the
0:20:45	actually we probably won't field in on in the traditional sense
0:20:50	we're hoping to do some phrases have you respect me around
0:20:53	and we're entertaining the idea of merging it with gas or merging it into that
0:20:58	system or basic workings
0:21:00	and the argument for remote merging it into this same because it's re as yes
0:21:05	is that would make it easier to harmonise releases
0:21:09	the argument for merging to non in into the G C plug-ins space is that
0:21:15	welding on is an elements not library like D S and S
0:21:20	well
0:21:21	dft plug-ins basis meant to have elements of all types including to do with the
0:21:25	use cases
0:21:27	so you are the big advantage of putting on this debate is a would be
0:21:31	under the responsibility of those guys the commentators and that would be better tested i
0:21:38	hope which is certainly an interesting prospect
0:21:42	so if you're curious about things we brainstorm the little bit you can see about
0:21:47	number know about seven hundred one two the two eight seven for details
0:21:56	but this thing
0:21:59	test all the things
0:22:02	we recently started experimenting with and automating
0:22:07	automated test server for everything for P T V N G S N G stream
0:22:12	originally and everything so everything it runs pretty much on every time someone come it's
0:22:19	something in G stream or
0:22:21	which is quite often
0:22:23	and it's allows us to spot regressions and know where they come from instead of
0:22:29	just spending two days trying to track down wanting is in everything broken why is
0:22:34	the my quicktime file not seeking anymore or something like that
0:22:39	it's much easier with that at least i've been told
0:22:45	the interface is and french sorry about that but that it's a difference conspiracy
0:22:52	and the other things you can do
0:22:56	well we also have these don't tell tests to just you want
0:23:01	automatically so right now we have the most common to be like scenarios that as
0:23:06	well as some corner cases known to figure bug like try to split a hundred
0:23:10	times it and also makes it very easy to write you access you just tell
0:23:16	a sequence of things to do you like click this button and then search for
0:23:21	the existence of this you why elements with this label or something
0:23:24	and it's actually really good way if you're looking to get involved in project in
0:23:28	the quality
0:23:29	i if you know some of the corner cases or
0:23:32	some of the things that are annoying to test and to reproduce bugs
0:23:36	come right to test for first test for your issues
0:23:41	systematically so that we keep working
0:23:44	well
0:23:46	so
0:23:47	stability is paramount
0:23:50	but people including me expect to have you know all some exciting stuff to make
0:23:56	complex sitting possible
0:23:59	so let's take a look at some of this exciting stuff from the last few
0:24:02	weeks
0:24:05	we killed good and that's
0:24:08	this is thanks to matt suitable sell you be factored and for to our time
0:24:14	like to clutter
0:24:15	in two weeks
0:24:17	see so if you don't that just before this summer of codes project started this
0:24:22	year
0:24:23	just to show how much of about that is
0:24:28	and
0:24:30	and the all this is another awesome
0:24:36	you can finally animated properties of your effects
0:24:40	so let's take a moment to marvel at how also places
0:24:44	here on my old let since there are key frame curve for this clip and
0:24:49	i can click on the key printer and miss the target but i can click
0:24:52	again and moving some T from upwards to nine controlling the saturation
0:24:58	and
0:25:00	this will change the amount of like how popping the colours are and it fits
0:25:05	so well way too much and
0:25:13	you'll be able to see the institute and result soon
0:25:17	so it goes from black and white to full colour
0:25:20	and black to back to black and white so you can animate here stuff now
0:25:25	which is super importance for crazies like me
0:25:34	pretty cool
0:25:36	speaking about that see
0:25:57	matters some real good project can be summarised in two words
0:26:01	fix
0:26:02	everything
0:26:04	so this goal is to fix bugs all atrocities from is that so that we
0:26:08	can actually really something without causing protests and riots in the streets
0:26:14	and so since the beginning of this do you some project from what i can
0:26:18	see from long but see that he's been involved in something over forty bugs in
0:26:23	G stream or
0:26:24	and
0:26:26	well we have a lot of the
0:26:28	nice stuff coming up we services
0:26:32	project for the some of code is quite different than matthew
0:26:37	i
0:26:41	which is basically you can be we are the clip
0:26:54	so that's example of one but roads are is will be ready finishes
0:27:13	no pressure
0:27:20	so regarding motion renting i have some thoughts on how to make an easy to
0:27:24	use you why for it and would like to discuss that with the advanced filmmakers
0:27:29	in the room us with your we do anything and this these can talk to
0:27:34	me interest about this
0:27:36	okay
0:27:38	other stuff when rendering we actually cast use humour pipeline errors now and we show
0:27:43	them to you instead of just randomly freezing up without saying anything
0:27:47	i think a
0:27:50	is a feature that about
0:27:53	and we have a nice with high resolution logo i can to which is always
0:27:57	nice and we also have new icons for the buttons on the in the you
0:28:01	like the timeline which is our pixel precise which is nice until you're running how
0:28:06	you guys we know
0:28:09	i'm also working on a more than fully responsive website design for P T V
0:28:13	which i will publish continue please comes out any day now
0:28:18	and i should hold of other stuff the stuff i mention here is
0:28:23	just what has happened in the last few weeks
0:28:26	the list of improvements is why that last year is really don't i'm not sure
0:28:32	i would have time to cover here
0:28:34	actually been working on it for the lot
0:28:37	well
0:28:38	i've been working on my talk for the last few weeks but
0:28:41	did still didn't have enough time to prepare for it today
0:28:46	and there's too many interesting people in glottic so this is annoying
0:28:52	so anyway you're curious you can take a look at or blog posts
0:28:56	and you have a nice very nice summary of the improvements
0:29:00	since last year
0:29:02	so for now simply invite you to join us and share the software we've got
0:29:07	a great technology got nice contributors and mentors very find friendly i see channel
0:29:14	call these will architect the that you want is separate from the core we have
0:29:18	a long project is three and we have a lot of experience
0:29:22	don't make the mistake of reinventing the wheel like countless others well unless you reinvent
0:29:27	the wheel using G S that's okay
0:29:31	we have a three weeks merge policy which we try to follow as much as
0:29:35	possible so if you try to contribute something to be a pasture artwork or something
0:29:41	where at least gonna try to we're gonna review which and if possible marriage at
0:29:46	the main that one branch and there's plenty of other reasons why it's cool to
0:29:50	and it to be to be on the website
0:29:52	and we want to make this stuff using so we have an automated build report
0:29:58	so this stuff will check if you're disrespect is recent enough and will allow you
0:30:02	to build everything in one go so it's a pretty easy
0:30:07	to get started it to be hiking and it's also useful a starting point if
0:30:11	you're trying out development versions of thirty streamer without touching rest of system is actually
0:30:16	useful to also test some simple bugs like those quicktime files actually play or see
0:30:24	so as you can see there's many ways you can help us
0:30:30	even you can writing new specialised it using of vacations
0:30:35	that's helpful for example
0:30:38	do you guess could be used to create a give you answers based realised for
0:30:42	recording and processing talks at conferences such as glottic
0:30:46	i'd be happy to help with guidance a not by support that
0:30:50	so i wouldn't code because well there's just so many hours in a day but
0:30:54	to come and see us and will help you get started if you're interested in
0:30:58	subdirectories project
0:31:01	and if you want to do you want work what we have some stuff but
0:31:04	this is just an example please finish my title it for brunch i'm sick of
0:31:09	from i think this feature and there isn't much work left to do and it's
0:31:13	a fun project that so come see us if you're interested
0:31:17	is save lot see in the room
0:31:21	i'm looking at you
0:31:26	so we will be having a fact is the this week so not sure where
0:31:30	we will be located
0:31:32	maybe we'll just be in the auditorium or that's a lot of tables
0:31:36	or something will see we can check our google plus event based or might sort
0:31:41	of what i would there be for details
0:31:43	and that's pretty much it thanks for your attention
0:31:48	any questions
0:31:54	my killed them all
0:32:06	you use P T V on any of the was you were showing us
0:32:10	want to right
0:32:12	i use that you were showing inside
0:32:15	your presentation i cheated and then use at id marks or something else
0:32:20	just to cut the middle and the end because i didn't want to re encode
0:32:23	the videos or maybe i did you speak to be for one or two of
0:32:27	them i don't remember
0:32:30	but
0:32:31	i had to fight but id marks box
0:32:34	that's that
0:32:36	very frustrating when it crashes and you have to start over again and again
0:32:41	every we do it in supper socks in a different way
0:32:48	other questions
0:32:50	insults
0:32:52	rotten fruit
0:32:55	there's rotten fruit over there
0:33:03	so i'm sorry i'm is the beginning readable
0:33:05	down but i know that about the T what's your plan in
0:33:10	because there's gonna be a lot of issues of the me and it's really in
0:33:13	the end
0:33:14	as you already said
0:33:19	what plans you have to have as many tests as possible
0:33:23	in P T V would you yes
0:33:27	so that in the end us G stream of can
0:33:32	and something break speaking
0:33:36	i guess needing to find additional time to write those
0:33:43	did you see is that i was i missed the beginning so did you missed
0:33:46	the automated testing thing
0:33:48	the want was the dock no before that actually me remind for five no point
0:33:54	ultra melissa like
0:33:58	in this i think that so long and that has always that you have seen
0:34:05	this i think the menorah it was in my point i don't mean you know
0:34:09	to make you know driving spend well point of test
0:34:12	and how many are gonna do right saying and so forth there's another member of
0:34:16	the for instance there is over there wants to answer
0:34:21	i should check out the give actually we have
0:34:27	lot of do yes
0:34:30	of course with a plane pipelines stuff like that
0:34:42	basic pipeline with the you do mixing origin mixing or transition stuff like that we
0:34:48	just wondering which it but the
0:34:50	they wanted five is the is actually correct
0:34:53	and then the idea is to have a like verification with the human eye
0:34:59	we just check
0:35:01	usually it's right
0:35:02	points
0:35:04	we just take this easy to magically
0:35:07	like to be sure it's right just
0:35:10	my
0:35:23	no other questions
0:35:28	wow that's like process questions how will i think or is very well

PiTiVi and GES, towards 1.x

Community Outreach Track

Jeff Fortin