0:00:10like she's this is my first one to come better very excited to be here
0:00:15so i really thank you very much to have as a my me myself and
0:00:21that apple of course michael
0:00:23i'm very happy to be here and i'm very happy to talk about my object
0:00:29reports this work come from my O P W work and that have thank you
0:00:36very much especially can we see here she was be a she's been my name
0:00:41my to tar and that's you have me and find my way we discover why
0:00:47i introduced this because i think this is very important note that we have to
0:00:51keep in mind that we talked about this a be having of the representation so
0:00:56that start
0:01:00so what is a new twenty a is coming to a new community
0:01:08and okay i have to say that this is the but first of all the
0:01:13sorry them the moment which and you want you have come for the first time
0:01:17not care the door of in your community i would like to this thing that
0:01:21this work generally is more a focus on norm but the general about their outreach
0:01:28in class communities
0:01:30and yes what happened what the new when i when in your personal come you
0:01:37know in the last we at
0:01:40she is very difficult to spend without than because it depends on the person and
0:01:45it depends from the community and not everything is so easy it's a P a
0:01:51because of course every person what rights need to and if i have some question
0:01:58and needs some different some very different and
0:02:04answers to their questions
0:02:06so the first question is of course that the first question but when we as
0:02:12community we have to make by i would south to come is well in the
0:02:18colour expect from a community
0:02:22and the second one is of course why he's coming here wise coming in your
0:02:27community this is very important because and we have to understand that and because every
0:02:35volunteer as a different route he or she of course may need a different can
0:02:41it wait for profit to the community and in my brother these told com as
0:02:48a work on my dog you which i am there is explain in detail every
0:02:54kind of every types of newcomer and of all india some because there are some
0:03:01or some where are technical some personal i don't we so that's technical so we
0:03:07have to one understand what focus everything to be very what's coming
0:03:14so and you come in new newcomer i've sat what
0:03:19what he expects to what she expect is to be with comment a probably or
0:03:25they find is the gate
0:03:28why because it's very difficult to join in the community and this of course the
0:03:38probably because newcomer try to of they come to boot but they don't know how
0:03:44well there must be one of the problem and you come could be a face
0:03:51one hit right you subtract to understand how the commuter works it to try to
0:03:56understand the tools the they were the work flow i it's not so immediately to
0:04:03understand because and if it comes from it for example i come from the from
0:04:09the community people to and there are some things that go similar something that is
0:04:15very different so probably well
0:04:18and you come a use when here at this is a guy a complex at
0:04:23the root
0:04:26well the most in from one of the most common mistakes that newcomers or of
0:04:32that person would like to contribute to and
0:04:38to a community me it is think that in a fast community is all the
0:04:43code that okay i see that probably because we may software at the core what
0:04:49is the most important but it's not enough
0:04:53because in okay i think that yes
0:04:57they won't go
0:04:58probably be wrong there are so many things to do and i think for example
0:05:04that the importance of the human part
0:05:09let's talk in that way is very important
0:05:13i come from the marketing i am i always work as a P R or
0:05:17a so i mean speech and talk a route and i realise so many years
0:05:23i accepting work with able to in two thousand some so it's six yes
0:05:31and the what you discover is that in the fact that probably the most project
0:05:37at very good car there's a very good software by they nice personal would be
0:05:43able to talk to explain how will i know or you softer well known or
0:05:48what else could be very easy and very user friendly i feel from goes around
0:05:55and the czech to say okay let's try easy and people's face no is my
0:06:01vehicle that depends only because sometime score their seismic lost one charters and
0:06:10their work will okay if you if we if we could be able to see
0:06:15and they on the first community from another glance what we could find the something
0:06:21like people who are i think but it's not so you know this is not
0:06:26this is not so told king translating the income france depressant in this is very
0:06:36important and translating is very important of course and drawing for example there are so
0:06:42many things that that's not technical but is very important to contribute to the community
0:06:48and we never forget these
0:06:50off of course the connecting the documentation work is very rich and very massive
0:06:59we have a other you come or i with the said well you want to
0:07:03do you should want to do okay
0:07:09these if i'm very interesting point
0:07:12that's your call
0:07:16okay now we the stars of five the story of newcomer want to come by
0:07:21let's tell the story on the opposite side from the community sites
0:07:26people who works in the in the product usually work very close each other they
0:07:32need to trust each other they need to find they wait and then in the
0:07:38really work help them to create some special links
0:07:42and this is so this is very this is very nice because they help you
0:07:48to make your coworker a sort of friendship
0:07:51they are not probably not there or something to trough but land one you an
0:07:56income or use what you have no side of trust
0:08:02okay this is very this is a big problem because one they you one you
0:08:07come and you are right and you have attributed yes and you have you want
0:08:11to contribute you have you are reading this a high to be or discriminative but
0:08:17you can because nobody listens to you nobody trusts you this is a very for
0:08:23and we have to find a way to solve this problem because what happened is
0:08:29of course you could happen is of course that a newcomer right has of manly
0:08:34a for many energy to be to the committee and if them find usefully probably
0:08:40he was away simply and we don't we have to study i tried to do
0:08:47this one for example with the still
0:08:49to be in the most them all what the one with car with come or
0:08:54we could be because this very
0:08:57so levels know we try to explain the problem to go on and the
0:09:04to vocalise to two files we take what we will which is somewhat that we
0:09:11have to kind of target of course the target of the than you com
0:09:17the fact that they to come i would like to participate and the target for
0:09:21the community
0:09:22sometimes this target was quite different at different and now we shall why and now
0:09:28i try to show you why now i think the best we could find a
0:09:32way to make the these two target
0:09:36this is the greek
0:09:38do with me for the committee
0:09:44i can i talk very much we them i reading very much around and they
0:09:50talk or that we can tinker we look you made a very special work also
0:09:54you made this or by
0:09:56and he has for many people coming from many case how what keys if i
0:10:03am who make a are some a newcomer really in be inside the community
0:10:11that cross or is that
0:10:14in this aspect model in which
0:10:17a personal talk about the community of not more as the community now as we
0:10:24well can jump in
0:10:26because i know
0:10:29the entire participation the and emotional what the special to the community is the first
0:10:35things to be in to feel like a newcomer be part of school and this
0:10:41is very important so well we could say that in the in this like moment
0:10:46which in of comparable so say about use community will our committee we this outreach
0:10:53what's just for
0:10:55and this of course it's a portable of with our first real
0:10:59well the problem the and you come has is introduce yourself
0:11:03in this part of on regarding of the of the second task that's really sad
0:11:09i think are trying to and show he scales and try to match his skills
0:11:15we the to those of the community this is not very easy because for example
0:11:20i tell i tell you my story i are having in two thousand someone and
0:11:25i wrote to the pharmacy i might come from detector and the okay actually to
0:11:32assortment are nice i am here i would like to participate and someone sees all
0:11:37and i am i slathered to this first so i was not very nice well
0:11:42in one some fans later D need in data community and need them spoke about
0:11:50something someone would deal with the newspapers and to yes with the with the trade
0:11:56magazine generally they had and they asked me they just me to do this and
0:12:02there are sources of course a huge amount of articles that we that we had
0:12:07during this yes and this is this is very good because probably this is my
0:12:13way to be part of the community i find my way and i would like
0:12:17to help other person
0:12:19find their way
0:12:22one of the problem we talk about the them important to find they await not
0:12:28a lot of the problem then you can
0:12:30is sometimes that a bit personal work inside the project usually use
0:12:37that sounds dramatic all channels like i see or so the S A P and
0:12:42that means that if you have to be done in that moment in this exact
0:12:46moment thing with the there is the set to debate or which and the team
0:12:52is talking about something and it could be not open possible so of course
0:12:57and the risk is that all database have not trace leave no trace and this
0:13:03is very this is not play shop of course because to want to be filled
0:13:08itself that cut off from the debate
0:13:11and so this is in this bring me testing that there are some special thanks
0:13:17to do get that refuse road map should be very clear everywhere and everybody could
0:13:24be able to take a look on the weekly or whatever
0:13:30and this is very important because of course if the document issues what every time
0:13:35and a they could we avoid the risk for example to work in the project
0:13:40this going to be the protracted for example or on we have the opportunity to
0:13:46find the we which part of the project is a dating or is most important
0:13:53one all has a lack of volunteer because i think that of course every contribution
0:13:59matters and we a new we need to avoid the risk of awards of work
0:14:06because this is not very fine
0:14:11okay i am the more about for you want to come of a few bones
0:14:16to remote product and i think that we can talk about the participation that after
0:14:21each we don't hear about i have to say that of course i am here
0:14:26thanks to who just need for this P B a P W program
0:14:33and i think this is very important to increase the part the fuel participation i
0:14:40okay this is a very good argument to so they wanted to take too much
0:14:44about this but i believe in this is important that they can consideration to that
0:14:50they can drink about this at the okay to keep an eye about this people
0:14:55participation because it's very important
0:14:59and i don't know how we are they are these dates i think and this
0:15:05these are about to
0:15:08maybe two years ago but
0:15:11probably they are
0:15:13could be a little bit it's not very much we are similar we had five
0:15:17percent participation a unit you want a team approach which want two and a half
0:15:23and that now i one and a half generally false
0:15:28okay you we could ask why know well but probably we don't have to ask
0:15:35here what we what we what i want to say here is them generally one
0:15:41there are so we want that and try to work other we want the project
0:15:45is just for this up and of course we you will project and this works
0:15:51of course in the old P W problem
0:15:55i need to these data from their press release
0:15:58and the last yes for example that was the seventy percent of the weather what
0:16:03special and fee model was people
0:16:06and interest and by the fifty participants the fifty respondents the come from normal of
0:16:12what we want so we have been collected more we don't respondents than all the
0:16:19other up and project all together consider of together i think this week yourself and
0:16:27you should be really be pushing this is not the we have to be a
0:16:32to beep or should have to be really be known because
0:16:35i think this is will agree to work
0:16:39okay now we talk about the problem that you talk about the solution
0:16:44there is not of course the one single solution
0:16:48but try to understand the how can we move to want to use this opportunity
0:16:55to increase the participation
0:16:57you can see of course an easy saturn incurable disease a generative learning curable just
0:17:03to have an idea what can talking and this learning to able and toast cast
0:17:10something some very trusting
0:17:12the first think sees them in the and the first part of a file when
0:17:16you come matter i buy in
0:17:20there are then
0:17:22the problem he could face well she could face it's very real a and they
0:17:28are very a very strong
0:17:31now win time for traffic this will we can also
0:17:35and by the second ticks that we have to remember is them at the proficient
0:17:40the rules to so we have the first be all this is the most important
0:17:45you which of people come and need to face some new challenge not long face
0:17:52and this is why we had to give them all the information because we have
0:17:57to use
0:17:59the they will be there will to participate
0:18:04the some things that we have to remember is that one the newcomer a drive
0:18:08that he need sometimes we know how to works how to work on how the
0:18:14community works in the you would feel yes how that they can the team works
0:18:22i don't know how the how that's all the community as a sparse on works
0:18:28not a nice sometimes to learn how to do what's that community offer to works
0:18:35and this is very interesting because sometimes if you go around there and i went
0:18:39wrong there are so many people who say okay but relax quite easy not he
0:18:44has and then to hope so but trying to work ask i'm every tools could
0:18:50be very user friendly could be a in paris and we to make these learning
0:18:58a small so i of course to help newcomers to be in that we need
0:19:03to work
0:19:06second kings to take in consideration is the small the small tasks to do some
0:19:13small some progress task
0:19:16are you certainly think that one when you come are right and you buy you
0:19:21made one bite that you want to we all their all their all the apple
0:19:26of course
0:19:28and do we have to give to prepare some more past the sounds more by
0:19:33for newcomer
0:19:34this is a very demanding process because i for example i am i am and
0:19:41try to prepare some test some fast for the for their people working in the
0:19:48in the P R team in italy and it's very demanding because some kind of
0:19:52say okay but i can do it the way have to prepare this for the
0:19:57especially because we are or one T S so i what time is very precious
0:20:01but we have to prepare them and the this is if you remember when it's
0:20:06a that the target the community and the target of the newcomers sometimes we risk
0:20:11not to match okay we have to the biggest we have to prepare a small
0:20:16task at to prepare them properly
0:20:20okay scott that
0:20:23of course that you know there is this week and this week problem this number
0:20:29of all about that small task forget to say sorry that we have to prepare
0:20:34totally some tasks to do a problem to make they and the battery i was
0:20:42very properly because once this it's a way to professionals more task so let's talk
0:20:48about that we don't know
0:20:50i mean and this company's problem i think is a very interesting program is that's
0:20:55actually what i what it said prepare some that's for your comments about how much
0:20:59more right but to find
0:21:01easy within the new tools and the and then you will feel i for to
0:21:07actually have to say that is not really we should it's not very you have
0:21:10not much really
0:21:11and not real no works to i really i dedicated I R C channel
0:21:19and of course with somebody that task
0:21:22and i believe that you could be interesting to try to do more space to
0:21:28these this problem and that to make it more easy to find and one year
0:21:35i mean in the get involved with peach probably you can see above normal this
0:21:41year in the very bottom of the page so i i'm not a design of
0:21:46course i'm not able to so i would like to draw something like that was
0:21:51she was really horrible but i think that probably try to make these small right
0:21:57the last to give to this program more relevant to be useful
0:22:02and other things to do
0:22:04a startup i'm sorry i was very happy to discover this started because they considered
0:22:10and we have science so this is very easy to start with the stock
0:22:17i have to say that i'm very in and what special rights a by this
0:22:20one because i was the one down some down a our be made from by
0:22:27other with them that may there a whole P O P W sell eight was
0:22:34quite nice because these could be a interesting we to me the matched the to
0:22:40match this target of the community with the with the target of the new com
0:22:44is something very easy to write for the newcomers easy to make by the common
0:22:52and the and it get us some richness to the community
0:22:58i wanna probably if we use icons could be interesting we to made a bidding
0:23:03more readable so for example if you sure interesting and know in writing or eating
0:23:11drawing use icons could be it interesting to a to make a the task more
0:23:17visible i don't know is a proposal
0:23:22what i think this could be a really interesting is topeka wrong we are part
0:23:28of first community but there S many product or you know on and it would
0:23:34be it because i know from where we would take a look and see how
0:23:39other than of the community try to able to make about are other volunteer be
0:23:45able but it be feel more about but in their project i think that could
0:23:50be interesting to take a look at to i want to see problem a ourself
0:23:55to whether communities well
0:24:00finally sharing is carrying so
0:24:04okay i don't knowles be polite always before light
0:24:10and when we convert abbas he always very exporting sometimes and you always very demanding
0:24:17he has so much question you don't know how to do things a probably he
0:24:24try to the world route to
0:24:28to make stuff
0:24:29of course it's not very easy and he's not very easy to deal with someone
0:24:35who with just the right but i think about the we if we will want
0:24:39to be and i would come in community we have to be polite and be
0:24:44me passion
0:24:45but there's
0:24:47this second this in but important to me of course
0:24:50speak simple an agenda and generate community what coming from but from a big part
0:24:58of the word so english could be the second thing what for money for many
0:25:04what it
0:25:05so to speak simple to be focus at certain start to speak a sparse ascii
0:25:11as possible even when nice written in you know i see for example
0:25:17could be a nice way to hell there but people who is not in and
0:25:23he's not many people
0:25:25and yes and the right sometimes could be it easier because you can read and
0:25:31if you don't understand you can translate so and
0:25:35is there was a request from not make to promote remember clear interspeaker
0:25:43okay and now we are i to the most important point at which i want
0:25:48to focus my work them at the ship
0:25:53if you remember i told that i had that with mentor and i have here
0:25:57is because i have such mentors
0:26:00and membership is but is the field to the most important things once i wanna
0:26:05ride in your community because mandatory is the person who can't explain to you how
0:26:11to commit to works with the mattress
0:26:14teach you how the that to work
0:26:17and if you actually can give you a
0:26:21these that do you want a much
0:26:24that helps you to join the fee actually the set of trust
0:26:30this is very in very interesting and i have to say that generally known as
0:26:34a huge and the very impressive a matter should problem and they have very much
0:26:43because the sometimes you what when you see okay we need the guy the we
0:26:48need to compose we need the road map everything could meet we make the remote
0:26:54very much more easier we departed should be some of map
0:26:58i mentors of the future someone would like to listen to you which is able
0:27:03to prepare the disk for you is exactly what we need
0:27:08i think that you could be very important and i think that it could be
0:27:15quite interesting that's to do for not products of course well from for that that's
0:27:21on that and we got hours and then they want to do something different and
0:27:27we i would like to propose something you that you enjoyed i would like to
0:27:32propose a there and to create more strip to read not to should probably i
0:27:38should call them with in knowing school i don't
0:27:42i told i told in previously about the buttons to and to match they communicate
0:27:48and the percentile goals
0:27:51i think that if we construct our assortment of ship we some courses their tactical
0:28:00or not technical we could have some personal who are prepared to work in the
0:28:06in the not word that works sorry in the can works we didn't know tools
0:28:12and this is could be very interesting because of we could offer something to
0:28:21the person could be interesting participating
0:28:24and they could learn something and they could be grateful that the to the community
0:28:31so we have some stuff name i of course and we have some part should
0:28:36some volunteer wound up prepare the to work directly on them stuff i think needed
0:28:43could be very interesting because this bring richness to the project is being a good
0:28:49and a good but here to the project
0:28:54i don't know please
0:28:56ask of course to the volunteer i always see ask if you have some nice
0:29:01question if you don't know where you were going if you need something
0:29:07that's community we have to say that we have to be we need to listen
0:29:12so i would like to propose for example to make some sort by or to
0:29:17make a and a letterbox which we could gain sound some the question are you
0:29:26comments cool make up or this and that's no new comments who can write because
0:29:32of course when the you are inside of community you can see what do without
0:29:36the problem that the new comments with place so if we but prepare some space
0:29:42for these could be well
0:29:44could be interesting
0:29:46okay i hope to
0:29:49to say almost i would think
0:29:51so thank you all the most users my and this is my address
0:29:57want to make some questions want to solve the side but works we of course
0:30:03and of course if you're thank you
0:30:13of course references
0:30:17so question
0:30:28what is the area that you think you know most improvement in attracting and keeping
0:30:31you can
0:30:33use it generally
0:30:37i don't really know what with our is most interesting of and you can i
0:30:42think that generally most important the most attractive is called i is i don't know
0:30:49i took talk about and i think that the norm shot project is but attractive
0:30:54that for much problem first much programmers and not use it this is actually what
0:30:59this that is very difficult to participate the one on the notion of project because
0:31:04there is and not roll group of very close the better are was we usually
0:31:12right very woman who usually work very close one each other
0:31:16and what i said and generally is that it's very difficult job this group and
0:31:23to be our want to be or these project
0:31:28but it could be would
0:31:32thank you
0:31:46you mentioned that you also work with want to women what in your opinion does
0:31:53want to women do better to recruit newcomers than gnome goes or vice versa like
0:31:59how do they compare in your opinion
0:32:04this is a very hard a question
0:32:07but it's a to two B S plastic and the question is a generally and
0:32:12what we know comes from experience of some to what here
0:32:20and yes which are to do over bustle what we know what we have focus
0:32:26of this we might is that in participating in that you need to told "'cause"
0:32:31it's not much more technical work based using it we have more focus it on
0:32:37be present or make told talk about the program and that tried to make out
0:32:44other women involved and try to brad okay one know the most important named we
0:32:51had for example is it's been that how to address man well
0:32:59what's the name
0:33:02okay a context sorry the interest not context and in because they have in past
0:33:09there is being during their yes for example some and some we men and us
0:33:16being not was traded by some participating so we think for example that people like
0:33:24in that asked them and to be very well i in that in they are
0:33:28see channel or during the many least or in the middle east is a very
0:33:32important things and depressing sometimes could be really useful because it to demonstrate to be
0:33:39present because if you can see there are generally how that when i wanted to
0:33:44them and talk when they are old man and how change the line what when
0:33:49there is a week and this could be very effective so say okay you'll you
0:33:55arm and of course i respect you for this one place remember that there are
0:33:59women so could you please avoid to use such words all such and such with
0:34:05to say and could be very interesting this consider that for example in other communities
0:34:12i don't want to talk why i don't want to say which one if you
0:34:16say okay i'm i mean we month and nobody told come with you and have
0:34:22some friend of mind that comes from this community who decide to change they had
0:34:28she had to make one is the may need a lot of the frame will
0:34:33make because he's not consider that all so what we have to try to do
0:34:38is to brad this year or to say okay we are win but we are
0:34:42worked to be to participate so please respect our respect i respect ask sorry
0:34:49and our ski have socratic sticks
0:34:53i have to say that generate there is a problem one sometimes there's a problem
0:34:57with the remote sometimes there are
0:35:00i can say some culture problems but it's very long story so how to want
0:35:04to the please you but generally if you are present that if you say okay
0:35:08i am here immediately sometimes change in man and matter i hope to be the
0:35:17but my answer could be fun for you
0:35:21thank you
0:35:29question exactly but
0:35:32but it will all you have been talking about it was mean leave the money
0:35:36Q U O point of view that women a problem all of the women fees
0:35:40problem and then you show you should we also do something also do for example
0:35:46sure models so that all
0:35:51we can you know i mean the gonna have magazines that's i can call that
0:35:56women who are good in no good positions in open source community and could show
0:36:02"'cause" that work
0:36:05do something in that direction
0:36:09okay i am yes i think that we have to do this
0:36:16we try to be present and the fact that we talk about what we are
0:36:22doing i'm very proud to be shifted to talk to the fact that i am
0:36:28here because there is a problem a tool for that we because the that means
0:36:33that we have to do something concrete something and that is not told but it's
0:36:39a that this is not words but is something concrete a so we are here
0:36:44and we can create some links and the we can know each other and we
0:36:49can yes this is that we just strong so i think that a what we
0:36:54can do usually respectful of that we want is to create this leak so and
0:36:59a and i believe that and is had opportunity to talk about what we are
0:37:07doing a to make this what public do you remember what i said in the
0:37:11in the very beginning in the very beginning of the my presentation there is some
0:37:15of course okay but we have to tell what we have doing that i okay
0:37:21i am in marketing so i usually talk about to do we are doing but
0:37:26it's very important because if you do that thing if you do it would work
0:37:31and you don't talk about what you're doing that you are not doing nothing this
0:37:36is sad but this is true you have to and this is why i think
0:37:40that is very important to talk about problem these problem or other programmer related to
0:37:45women and there was right in the magazine and be present that for example in
0:37:51have been have to make a tool in them in the lilacs they that is
0:37:57this big have that's the every runs telly and that's i think this is very
0:38:04important because of told can make methinks a new this is very important and that
0:38:11is the good way to be able to work more effective
0:38:23five minutes left for another quest i
0:38:30and coming into the you know community you can from having prior experience to women
0:38:37how did you feel what we did you feel the differences were between that the
0:38:44a level except
0:38:46you talk about the committee tell for you want to the commute of know all
0:38:49you're talking about the women community or you know what i'm talking about that a
0:38:53larger can you okay
0:39:00at the to be very quickly more you have so they've in okay don't commute
0:39:06came to community are very similar to the person but they are very different because
0:39:11the project to whom they are related that very different
0:39:15generally of them to community
0:39:18is a community and we show you can really contribute to the to the developing
0:39:26of you want to because if you want to so how back to monica and
0:39:31canonical me the most important one unidirectional the stronger action and on to the softer
0:39:40project but know how and have a i have to say that generally want to
0:39:46communities very improper messy but there is the
0:39:51want to is everywhere and so something three so for example if it will if
0:39:56you were treated a if you completed it and you know and you ask about
0:40:00plan looks like to and not technical person probably she'll if she save a not
0:40:06a you want to okay i don't know lax but i know what you want
0:40:13and so this how are community to be more to be more flashy but there's
0:40:22more friendship and the and there is a something more data today i to the
0:40:27idea today is more is more ideal community i don't know if i think it's
0:40:34quite clear well okay i am i have been in and in and community and
0:40:41we to committee for seven here and i am here only for i can see
0:40:45want when you know so i don't know exactly what happened and what happened in
0:40:50the in all i have to say that generally i found the i have found
0:40:55them community more what's coming and because for example the fact that is the norm
0:41:02is the community driven how to be to make your work more effective to the
0:41:08to every part of the program a room of the project sorry for example are
0:41:13you work it's pi in the community entire community but have not the opportunity to
0:41:19write something or to prepare some properly some firstly it really is because of we
0:41:26always at the news advert us times when they would do it was very late
0:41:31to prepare something very properly here we have a we when we have to write
0:41:37something place for example we know that something's going out not next really sees them
0:41:43today so we had the one week to and work properly and to make your
0:41:50what really fact if this is what the field and this in this is this
0:41:55is very dredging about pessimistic button but community is made by wonderful but so
0:42:08i there that's not that that's a
0:42:12i can say thank you very big thank you very it has all okay thank
0:42:18you can be here at think use for you work of course because you are
0:42:22you have this community thank you to have to have my talk and i think